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Down Deep Sportfishing 04-09-2015 07:30 PM

2015 NJ Regs
 
This looks like a done deal-

Fluke -

5 fish @ 18" May 22 - Sept. 26

Striped Bass -

1 fish @ 28" - 43"
1 fish over 43"
Bonus tag - 1 over 28" until Aug. 31

*** Bonus tag as of Sept. 1 - Dec 31 - 1 fish @ 24" - 28"

*Bonus tags have no order in use.

Seabass -

May 26 -June 30 - 15 fish @ 12.5"

July 1 - July 31 - 2 fish (by catch) @ 12.5"

Oct. 22 - Dec. 31 - 15 fish @ 12.5"

shrimpman steve 04-09-2015 07:37 PM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Does this mean you can use you bonus tag before harvesting a cow

Down Deep Sportfishing 04-09-2015 07:45 PM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve (Post 398453)
Does this mean you can use you bonus tag before harvesting a cow

Yes, tag can be used in any order.

FASTEDDIE29 04-09-2015 07:46 PM

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Good question Steve! I'm sure the higher ups want us to kill a cow before using the bonus tag. Hoping not of course!!!

FASTEDDIE29 04-09-2015 07:47 PM

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Well that's not too bad then! Things could be better, things could be worse!!!

shrimpman steve 04-09-2015 07:50 PM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Thanks Mario!
May see you out there this weekend

maxifsc 04-09-2015 07:50 PM

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So its still two fish at 28 as long as you pay two bucks for the bonus tag hmmm no need to kill the cow just make sur you havthe bonus tag

Down Deep Sportfishing 04-09-2015 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxifsc (Post 398459)
So its still two fish at 28 as long as you pay two bucks for the bonus tag hmmm no need to kill the cow just make sur you havthe bonus tag

Correct Max, until Sept. 1 . See you soon !

hartattack 04-09-2015 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxifsc (Post 398459)
. . just make sur you havthe bonus tag . . .

Not sufficient just to have the tag; it must be filled out before you return to the dock; here're the State instructions:

What to do if you harvest a bonus fish:
• All information on the permit must be completed immediately after harvest and prior to transportation.
• Report harvest information at www.wildlifelicense.com. A $2.00 fee will be charged to receive a replacement permit. Harvest information must be reported online for all permits issued via the internet. You will not receive a new permit by going to a check station or by mailing your permit to the Division.

SOURCE = http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf...nstruction.pdf

makosnax 04-09-2015 08:55 PM

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The bass population is in trouble, we must protect them! Unless of course you give us 2 dollars. Friggin joke

joswald53 04-09-2015 08:58 PM

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2015 sea bass regs just set tonight. bonus program too
Sea bass regulations set at Council meeting http://on.app.com/1yhpSfj via @AsburyParkPress

arat 04-09-2015 09:30 PM

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I'd rather them say keep 2-3 fish 18 to 34 inches and call it a day. If you want to buy a trophy tag for a fish over say 50" so be it. But you should only be able to use the tag once a season.
What a bunch of morons

tombanjo 04-09-2015 09:57 PM

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Oh, I am so looking forward to hearing the PB captains and mates explaining this to their customers as the fish are flying over the rails.

"No, no, you get one from column A OR two from column B."

Joey Dah Fish 04-09-2015 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by makosnax (Post 398469)
The bass population is in trouble, we must protect them! Unless of course you give us 2 dollars. Friggin joke

Exactly!!!! It's all about that cash bout that cash

shrimpman steve 04-09-2015 10:35 PM

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I'm thinkin of getting the bonus tag so I don't have to kill a cow. To be honest I hardly keep any. Last year if I kept five fish for the year it was a lot. And yes, I did catch a lot of bass last year. But every now and then I want to bring one home, or a neighbor asks for one. If I get the tag I don't have to take a big fish.

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 05:11 AM

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I'm pretty cynical about State money grabbing since they are in our pockets for everything. However, I can't see how the $2.00 for a tag is a money grab... It probably costs the state more then $2.00 to issue and track the tags. If anything, it may cover the cost of administering the program.

I think it's more likley to get more information in regard to landings and stock assessment.

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 05:55 AM

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So as I read the Striper Regs this is how I interpret them.

We have no closed season and if you don't have a bonus tag you are allowed 2 fish. 1 between 28 and 43 and one over 43 all year long. You must however be regsitered with the NJ Marine Registry unless you are fishing a charter or party boat and they have the regsitry covered .

If you have a bonus tag, on top of the regular regs:
- Until 8/31 you can keep a 3rd fish over 28 inches or you could have 2 fish between 28 and 43 and use the tag for one of them.
- From 8/31 on you can keep a 3rd fish between 24 and 28 inches and use the tag for it. Or, have one fish between 24 and 28 inches and use the tag for it.

So total possession limits if you have and use a tag are as follows
- Until 8/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 Fish over 43
. 1 Fish 28 inches or more
- Between 8/31 and 12/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 fish over 43
. 1 fish between 24 and 28

Whenever you are in NY waters you can only have one fish 28 inches or more and only between 4/15 - 12/15. And, to possess a fish in NY you have to have be enrolled in the NY Marine Registry, unless you are on a charter or party boat and they are regsitered with NY.

If this is correct I'm going to need to print it out and keep it on the boat... My head hurt enough trying to figure it out once :rolleyes:

Reel Class 04-10-2015 06:43 AM

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I think the bigger concern besides the bass regs are the BS seabass regs AND seasons.

We basically have 5 weekends to fish seabass in the spring, and then the month of July becomes a by-catch, then it's closed till the end of October?!?!?

From 9/26 to 10/22 we gotta hope the porgies show, the giant bluefish come back and eat our transducers, and maybe we have SOMETHING else that's sustainable.

Vernon 04-10-2015 08:11 AM

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You can have the National Registry, which is $25 that covers all states.

SplitShot 04-10-2015 08:25 AM

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The imbeciles making up these rules are banking on you not having a bonus tag for that second 28" fish, so they can take in a lot more in fines then just the $2.00....

Where is the conservation that this whole thing was about? Now you can legally take 3 fish (as long as you meet size limits) instead of 2 last year:confused:

Their brains are where their legs meet their waist!!

RBC67 04-10-2015 08:34 AM

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So total possession limits if you have and use a tag are as follows
- Until 8/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 Fish over 43
. 1 Fish 28 inches or more
- Between 8/31 and 12/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 fish over 43
. 1 fish between 24 and 28


Not so the 1 over 28 bonus tag is only in effect until the lawyer review goes through in 3 to 4 weeks then there is no bonus fish until 9/1/15when it becomes 1@ 24 to28

Capt. Lou 04-10-2015 08:44 AM

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Confusing for sure , doesn't bother me per se' but it as I understand it wasn't the bonus tag implemented to draw from the commercial tonnage initially ?
Not entirely sure of this relationship now but that's what was initially the intent .
Good or bad it is what it is, the sea bass regs hurt for sure ! At least fluke not terrible !
Hake on the horizon ?! Never ends , the guys up north can't even ground fish in many areas , their done !
Watch those dock pictures cutting of ur nose to spite ur face !!!:cool:

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 08:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mccandrj (Post 398506)
You can have the National Registry, which is $25 that covers all states.

Hmmm - first time I've heard about that.

NY and NJ registry are however both free.

If you go the $25 National route, I would guess it does not cover you when fishing states like Florida where they have a paid salt water license??

Vernon 04-10-2015 08:58 AM

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Last year was 2/1 3 fish, plus this law isn't in effect yet till the Gov signs it. So, we still fall under the 2014 rules

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 09:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RBC67 (Post 398511)
So total possession limits if you have and use a tag are as follows
- Until 8/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 Fish over 43
. 1 Fish 28 inches or more
- Between 8/31 and 12/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 fish over 43
. 1 fish between 24 and 28


Not so the 1 over 28 bonus tag is only in effect until the lawyer review goes through in 3 to 4 weeks then there is no bonus fish until 9/1/15when it becomes 1@ 24 to28

Huh?? :confused: first I've heard of this. Please elaborate.

Vernon 04-10-2015 09:02 AM

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Gerry, license is different, if you state requires a license, you still need that. But the National Registry is means you don't have to apply for the registry in any one state. It covers you where ever you fish, but it isn't a license.

Vernon 04-10-2015 09:06 AM

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Gerry, that is why we still fall under 2014 regs, until everything is looked at an the Gov signs. he has until the end of the month, then it goes in effect automatically.

CCMPmonmouth 04-10-2015 09:07 AM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 398497)
I'm pretty cynical about State money grabbing since they are in our pockets for everything. However, I can't see how the $2.00 for a tag is a money grab... It probably costs the state more then $2.00 to issue and track the tags. If anything, it may cover the cost of administering the program.

I think it's more likley to get more information in regard to landings and stock assessment.

Trying to make demand for tag. Then they will raise the price. just like size limits make it small at the beginning so no one cares then slowly raise it to the point of burdensome.

RBC67 04-10-2015 09:20 AM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 398518)
Huh?? :confused: first I've heard of this. Please elaborate.

That is what was said at the meeting last and confirmed twice there will be no spring bonus tag after the lawyer review.

Everything for sea bass, fluke and stripers will be sent to the states attorneys today as soon as approved in 3 to 4 weeks all new regs will be in effect. The new bonus tag will supersede the existing one immediately but will not take effect to 9/1/15 to prevent the needles killing of a 3rd big fish in the spring

Vernon 04-10-2015 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RBC67 (Post 398523)
That is what was said at the meeting last and confirmed twice there will be no spring bonus tag after the lawyer review.

Everything for sea bass, fluke and stripers will be sent to the states attorneys today as soon as approved in 3 to 4 weeks all new regs will be in effect. The new bonus tag will supersede the existing one immediately but will not take effect to 9/1/15 to prevent the needles killing of a 3rd big fish in the spring

Bureaucracy, like someone will get hurt the way it is written, or someone enforces it wrong.

Vernon 04-10-2015 09:29 AM

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Well, I will be on my yak this weekend, and if I am lucky, I will catch 3 fish! :):)

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 09:34 AM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RBC67 (Post 398523)
That is what was said at the meeting last and confirmed twice there will be no spring bonus tag after the lawyer review.

Everything for sea bass, fluke and stripers will be sent to the states attorneys today as soon as approved in 3 to 4 weeks all new regs will be in effect. The new bonus tag will supersede the existing one immediately but will not take effect to 9/1/15 to prevent the needles killing of a 3rd big fish in the spring

Thanks RBC so if/when all that comes to pass, then we will have this?

Total possession limits if you have and use a tag are as follows
- Until 8/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 Fish over 43
- Between 9/1 and 12/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 fish over 43
. 1 fish between 24 and 28

Until it's signed into law, we have this

Total possession limits if you have and use a tag are as follows
- Until ??
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 Fish over 43
. 1 Fish 28 inches or more
- Between 8/31 and 12/31
. 1 fish between 28 and 43
. 1 fish over 43
. 1 fish between 24 and 28

Vernon 04-10-2015 10:04 AM

Re: 2015 NJ Regs
 
Thanks Gerry, nothing is easy in this state!

Walleyed 04-10-2015 10:08 AM

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Here's another wrinkle....if, hypothetically, you have already purchased a 2015 bonus tag, will the use of that tag be prohibited once the NJDEP commissioner approves the new regs? Or will the bonus tags purchased prior to the new regs be honored?

JBird 04-10-2015 10:29 AM

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Face palm.

Vernon 04-10-2015 10:37 AM

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Use it!

Gerry Zagorski 04-10-2015 10:40 AM

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Should be an interesting season for you and all the for hires Jay...

You'll have lots of "splanin" to do ;)

I can hear it now...

You can keep this but not that unless you have a tag and if you have a tag you can only use it after 8/31 and only during leap years :D

backbay 04-10-2015 10:50 AM

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why the hell cant they get this crap figured out before the damn season starts, people have been catchin stripers for a couple weeks now and no one knows what the hell is actually legal

Vernon 04-10-2015 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by backbay (Post 398543)
why the hell cant they get this crap figured out before the damn season starts, people have been catchin stripers for a couple weeks now and no one knows what the hell is actually legal



Still 2014 regs

JBird 04-10-2015 11:21 AM

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I already have a headache.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 398541)
Should be an interesting season for you and all the for hires Jay...

You'll have lots of "splanin" to do ;)

I can hear it now...

You can keep this but not that unless you have a tag and if you have a tag you can only use it after 8/31 and only during leap years :D



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