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shresearchdude 03-18-2015 07:26 PM

Black Seabass venting?
 
How about some sharing of experience...

if you vent any fish what method do you use?

Just poke them with something sharp?
An actual venting tool?
The low cost milk crate method?

blkbear 03-18-2015 07:27 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
works great on offshore seabass, the head right back down

Jlavine 03-18-2015 09:40 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
I was speaking with an aquatic veterinarian (top in his field) at a local veterinary teaching hospital and he had some very interesting insights on venting.

He said they have looked at lots of fish post venting and the majority of them had scarred or infected tracts from venting, scarred swim bladders and had a very small rate of survival. His main opinion was that anything brought up from the depth should be kept and humanely euthanized, but unfortunately regulations prohibit that at times. The new tools that allow you to very slowly lower the fish back down to an appropriate depth may increase survival and definitely don't do more harm to the fish than poking it with a non-sterile needle (and probably with the wrong technique).

Capt Joe 03-18-2015 09:57 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Seabass cranked up from 200' water. Stomach blown outside the body, scales blown away from the skin from air, gill linings exploded in their heads and eyeballs blasted outside the eye sockets. And thats only what you can see
Venting?
Total joke.
Makes ya feel good when it can swim down 30 or 40 feet (then expire).
At 200' plus survival is probably zero.

shresearchdude 03-18-2015 11:11 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
I agree that inshore vs offshore are two different ballgames.
I've vented BSB from about 70ft with a non sterile needle and tracked them 3 months later. Fish are way more resilient that we think...Oh and those fish had surgery to embed an acoustic transmitter(I've been at the top of that field too).

I'll find the study done in NC waters that has some interesting things to say...
That study wasn't done very deep.
I'm going to be talking to someone about this this weekend...I'm leaning towards NJ inshore not so important-offshore important but is it worth the effort?

Am I way off base?

Duffman 03-18-2015 11:32 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Have tried many times offshore fishing in 180+ fow. Have used non sterile needles trying to release small fish. They seem to make it down 20 - 30 feet only to pop back up to the surface to become gull dinner.

1captainron 03-19-2015 07:39 AM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
I call BS on this one.....if it makes you feel good do it. Other than that, fillet it and eat it, better you than the birds and crabs.:rolleyes:

tautog 03-19-2015 08:29 AM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Snapper and grouper it seems to work, sea bass, not so much. Moderately deep sea bass, under 150, tend to do well with a slow steady burping pressure on the stomach. But at a certain stage they are too far gone with bubbles all through the blood stream.

frugalfisherman 03-19-2015 08:38 AM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=heffqxMb-6g

Flukemeister1 03-19-2015 10:12 AM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Very easy way to return a fish that has a chance to survive ( not the ones with eyes bulged and guts hanging out), simply hook the fish through the skin of or near the head and then drop them back to the bottom. When they get to the bottom lift sharply on the rod and the hook will pull out and the fish will be back at the pressure you brought it up from. As Research Dude said they are pretty tough.

Capt Joe 03-19-2015 01:46 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frugalfisherman (Post 395881)

Hey Bruce, that video is a winner. The dipchit selling it makes sure he whacks the Seabass on the deck taking it off with that piece of crap de-hooker.
Yeek...God save the Queen...what stupidity.:mad::eek::eek:

Tunarun 03-20-2015 06:21 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Joe (Post 395918)
Hey Bruce, that video is a winner. The dipchit selling it makes sure he whacks the Seabass on the deck taking it off with that piece of crap de-hooker.
Yeek...God save the Queen...what stupidity.:mad::eek::eek:

Capt Joe, Doesn't that start the cbass heart? LOL Dennis

Capt Joe 03-20-2015 06:42 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Guess thats one way to get it going, Dennis!:eek::eek:

tautog 03-20-2015 06:49 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
sea bass anesthesia for the surgery....

Capt Joe 03-20-2015 07:13 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
would :D:D if it werent so :eek::eek: -------------------:D

JDTuna 03-24-2015 04:08 PM

Re: Black Seabass venting?
 
Its probably better to use a descending device. While venting does work, it relies on the fact that it is done properly. The time of the year will also affect survival. Warmer water temps will greatly increase the chance of infection.


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