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bassnbucks 08-05-2014 08:26 PM

fluke skins
 
I talked to a guy that was recently on a party boat.While mates were filleting they were throwing the skin in a bucket.The mate said they use them on the next trip for bait.Can someone clarify the law on this?

njboarder 08-05-2014 08:42 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
I don't see anything wrong with that. Strips of fluke belly make very good bait. Actually, I prefer fluke belly over squid since it's much tougher to get it off the hook.

dfish28 08-05-2014 10:40 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
I would have to say that boat shouldn't be mentioned and same rule would apply for belly : must have racks of legal length...

Bucktailboys.com 08-05-2014 10:49 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dfish28 (Post 369093)
I would have to say that boat shouldn't be mentioned and same rule would apply for belly : must have racks of legal length...

Totally agree....What about the "ribs" when you fillet?

bassnbucks 08-06-2014 07:27 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
I am just trying to see if the man considers the "skins" to be fluke belly.

tjd24 08-06-2014 07:35 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
Guys, check the NJ Marine Digest under Finfish/Filleting because you could be issued a violation of the Regs for keeping skins/strips.

It states that: "No parts of any fish caught on a previous fishing trip shall be in possession."

I don't agree, but what are you gonna' do?

aduma1107 08-06-2014 08:50 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
If caught without the racks it's 35 bucks a ribbon plus a 20 buck fee. So 55 bucks per ribbon if caught without legal sized racks.

Gerry Zagorski 08-06-2014 10:22 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
Correct. You can be fined it you don't have the racks to prove the fish you took them from was of legal size.

As far as the skin and the ribbons... The skin is the skin and the ribbons are the outside of the skins where the small bones/fins are.. Usually some meat left on them after filleting so they are prefferd over the skins. Cut them in long strips jusy like you would squid.

kurtisb 08-06-2014 10:38 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
I heard that a non sponsor party boat recently lost their fillet permit for supplying strips.

1captainron 08-06-2014 05:09 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
TOTAL BS!!! Only because of a "couple boats" cutting shorts, and I was told this directly from the powers that be....it now cost me over $1800 so far this season for Freaking Squid!!

Enforcement has to enforce but when it get's thrown in their face, we all have to suffer.:mad:

Finnegan 08-06-2014 05:28 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
I understand the rule to be:

Anglers may fillet one legal-sized summer flounder (fluke) from their daily possession limit catch for use as bait. This carcass, commonly known as the rack, shall be kept intact so it can be measured for compliance with the minimum size limit. No parts of any summer flounder caught on a previous fishing trip shall be in possession; only fish just caught on this outing.

Dawgs 08-06-2014 06:21 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
what do the new york regs say?

1captainron 08-06-2014 06:37 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgs (Post 369227)
what do the new york regs say?

your screwed.:d

1captainron 08-06-2014 06:37 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgs (Post 369227)
what do the new york regs say?

your screwed. :d

Solemate 08-06-2014 09:10 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
So if you fillet up your first keeper for the rack then all the strips you have are ok?

Blind Archer 08-06-2014 09:21 PM

Re: fluke skins
 
Only if you cut them reeeeeaaaally thin.:)

PALMERS TACKLE 08-07-2014 08:56 AM

Re: fluke skins
 
This rule has made me nuts for years..when i get a few nice keepers and take the fish home , fillet them and then take the ribbons salt them and freeze them for future trips i never saw a problem or reason why i couldn't use the strips.
Have been boarded in the past and the officer was decent because the strips were still partially frozen..did not give me a fine BUT DID MENTION THE RULE!
-Pnarty boat fluking captains could save a ton of money on squid from their fares fillets using the discarded strips.
Makes no sense to me as the boats pay a fee for their fillet permit--they should be able to strip out carcass for bait use as part of the fillet license.
I always thought the rule as most fisheries regs made no darn sense


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