Measuring rocks on the Musconetcong river:
 

The technique involves taking a rock and figuring out the smallest hole it fits through. Then you yell out the measurement to the recorder. The water was cool and our volunteers are always happy to be up to their knees in the river. What else do you see in this photo on the Musconetcong river ?


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The obvious would be the two hidden beavers... Jk and edit if need be...

I see another thing as well - is that a r16-22.5 tire or just a weird reflection like you get in the raritan?

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I see a perfectly good piece of foreign debris, that most likely houses thousands if not millions of insects and inverdibrits:D

Other than its unusually simetrical shape that's not often found in nature, it looks good to me

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Tires in the rivers are bad. Have we become so accustomed to them now we just think of them as part of the scenery ? Find it odd, they are all coming out, slowly.

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Just curious Andy.....Other than them being an eye sore, whats so bad about them??? They don't break down and deteriate like metal for instance....

Not trying to down play your efforts....I think all of the cleanup is a Gr8 thing and I thank you and the many others that put so much time and effort into cleaning up our rivers....I'm just not sure why tires specifically are so bad??

I've caught just as many 4-5lb fish off of tires as I have off of laydowns and boulders, but maybe that's just because there are soooo many tires....:confused:

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Fish have had no problem surviving before we started throwing tires in the water. The tires leech bad chemicals into the water, they are petroleum based. Not only are we taking out the tires but a lot of metal and plastic also.

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Didn't they build reef sites out of tires in the ocean. I am pretty sure they did. I is common practice in pa ponds to chain a bunch together and make structure out of them. Good job on the cleanup a lot of people are pigs the way they dump garbage in our oceans and rivers.

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Well aware of the petroleum base , just not so sure of the leeching problem that you mention.....Gr8 job on todays catch Andy....Like i said , i'm not knockin it, what you do is gr8 x 10....but other than an eyesore i'm not so sure they are an enviromental issue...

Then again if a bunch a tires are chillin together in da river , it may attract more mischevious tires that want to join the party....Ty for the feedback

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I'm guessing that tires probably contain some heavy metals like most heavy industry items.

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Good point!! did'nt think about that....Steel belted tires are EVERYWHERE...
I do miss a few of my goodyear honey holes:D:D

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Yes, there were groups that made artificial reefs with tires. If I recall correctly, it turned out to be a bad idea. Eventually the tires broke free of their tethers. During storms, the tires would move around on the ocean floor and smash delicate corals and other reef structures that took hundreds of years to build.

I don't know if they still build reefs with tires. They may have stopped that practice.

I looked at the EPA website to see if tires leached hazardous chemicals and couldn't find any info. They only said that that chemicals released hazardous chemicals when they are burned, but products made from recycled tires are no worse than any other rubber/plastic product.

Site:
http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/tires/faq.htm

In my opinion, the worst problem with tires is that they're unsightly and unnatural. That may not mean much fishing the Passaic River in Paterson, but a pristine river like Raritan River as it runs through Ken Lockwood Gorge Wildlife Management Area deserves much better.



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Re: Measuring rocks on the Musconetcong river:
 

What's the point of measuring rocks andy?

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I was wondering that same thing...:confused:

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I don't know why they measure rocks, good question.

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Couldn't believe no one asked before I did.

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It was the first question that came to my mind, but I didn't want to look stupid when someone gave an obvious reason why iit was important.

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I think measuring rocks is less pointless than arguing that keeping or putting tires in rivers is alright.

But please... continue to debate.

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I just find it funny that Eskimo would say if you fish the Passaic it is okay to look at tires and garbage but if you fish the Ken Lockwood Gorge you shouldn't see tires. Actually, there is a tire in the KLG. No one should have to look at tires and garbage while fishing. If you ever looked at how many environmental groups there are in NJ you would think all waters would be as clean as KLG.

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I was just trying to be funny. You're right. There shouldn't be garbage dumped in any river, regardless of whether it's in an urban environment.

Measuring rocks does seem like a peculiar exercise. I googled it and they might be assessing the river's 'bed load' which is the largest and heaviest materials moving in a stream.


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I know when I fish the Musky I am always picking up after those that leave the worn container , soda can etc. on the side of the river. One time in Htown I pulled a shopping cart of the water by the cemetery. :mad: