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torchee 03-14-2014 01:15 PM

To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
The regs in NY have keep me in NJ, especially those years when the size was 19+ in NY.
I do most of my fluking from my kayak. It seems like breezy pt and Jamaica Bay on a calm day is going to be much more tempting.


We'll likely see some highlands boats fishing off NYC as well.

Now if only the tolls were less...

frugalfisherman 03-14-2014 01:34 PM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
Do both. You can keep 5 in NY and 5 in NJ.

Harpoon 03-14-2014 01:52 PM

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Dont forget....the central/south jersey guys can reach Delware within 2 hours now. @16" fluke its very enticing to head down there now.

arat 03-17-2014 10:10 AM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
I don't know about Jamaica bay. Out front of the island yeah but Jamaica bay here there are a ton of fish there but also heard they are usually less than 18, but that's just what I have gathered from some guys I talk to

Gerry Zagorski 03-17-2014 10:26 AM

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Lots of good places back in the bay to fish but it's tricky if you are not familiar with the area. You need a good chart or charplotter and pay close attention to it as the channels curve around a lot. It's a good early season spot as the water warms up pretty quickly.

RussA 03-17-2014 03:47 PM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
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Originally Posted by arat (Post 348022)
I don't know about Jamaica bay. Out front of the island yeah but Jamaica bay here there are a ton of fish there but also heard they are usually less than 18, but that's just what I have gathered from some guys I talk to

Then you need to talk to different people. :)

If I had these regulations last year and the year before and the year before that and so on, a limit would have been had in just a few hours and when I say few I mean 2 hours on average.

RussA 03-17-2014 04:11 PM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 348024)
Lots of good places back in the bay to fish but it's tricky if you are not familiar with the area. You need a good chart or charplotter and pay close attention to it as the channels curve around a lot. It's a good early season spot as the water warms up pretty quickly.

It's a good spot from beginning to finish of the fluke season...

Sharkyispy 03-18-2014 07:07 AM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
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Originally Posted by frugalfisherman (Post 347756)
Do both. You can keep 5 in NY and 5 in NJ.

So there you have it NJ fishermen.....go to NY, take 5 that they want TO SHARE with us, come back to NJ get 5 more.....Thanks NY!!!!:D:D

The Sinker Man 03-18-2014 07:29 AM

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You better think about this one..If you leave Jersey and fish NY first and get 5 then stop in NJ on the way in and get 5 more, don't you really have 10..When you land in Jersey with 10 and the CO stops you aren't you really 5 over your limit?

Sharkyispy 03-18-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sinker Man (Post 348166)
You better think about this one..If you leave Jersey and fish NY first and get 5 then stop in NJ on the way in and get 5 more, don't you really have 10..When you land in Jersey with 10 and the CO stops you aren't you really 5 over your limit?

Sam, I'm mocking here but hey if NY wants some of our quota we might as well share theirs too!!?? I know a place to stop in NY and then relaunch in NJ if necessary!! Better yet come back to NJ , unload and then go back out for the NJ limit.(it's legal to take two trips a day non a party boat)........:eek::rolleyes:

The Sinker Man 03-18-2014 07:41 AM

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Mike,If I fished NY and Nj I still wouldn't be able to come up with 5 total.

shrimpman steve 03-18-2014 08:31 AM

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I am going to rape ny waters this year!

Also if ever stopped will make sur I tell co's all fish were caught in ny. Let it go towards their quota

frugalfisherman 03-18-2014 09:10 AM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
What would be great is if all the Atlantic Highlands party boats went over to the NY side everyday. I think that would get some attention.

Billfish715 03-18-2014 10:48 PM

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I rarely saw N.Y. boats fishing in N.J. for fluke. Maybe an occasional PB but very few privates except in Ambrose. The size and bag limits on the N.Y. guys have been extremely severe. Imagine if it was us! The N.Y. guys were in the same mess as we were/are. The NMFS dictated their regulations with the same flawed data that they used to dictate ours. Don't take it out on the N.Y. guys. They went through a lot and still managed to keep their heads and catch keeper N.Y. fish during it all. It's an even playing field now. If they catch fish in N.J. waters it counts against their quotas. If we catch them in N.Y. waters, it counts against ours. this is not a contest between two states. It should be a bond between two neighbors who have a common interest for laws that are sound and sensible for everyone. One last thing.......the N.Y guys seem to have managed to keep the bunker boats out of their side of the Raritan which has helped us to a degree even though we don't have the same luxury.

charterone2 03-19-2014 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by billfish715 (Post 348276)
i rarely saw n.y. Boats fishing in n.j. For fluke. Maybe an occasional pb but very few privates except in ambrose. The size and bag limits on the n.y. Guys have been extremely severe. Imagine if it was us! The n.y. Guys were in the same mess as we were/are. The nmfs dictated their regulations with the same flawed data that they used to dictate ours. Don't take it out on the n.y. Guys. They went through a lot and still managed to keep their heads and catch keeper n.y. Fish during it all. It's an even playing field now. If they catch fish in n.j. Waters it counts against their quotas. If we catch them in n.y. Waters, it counts against ours. This is not a contest between two states. It should be a bond between two neighbors who have a common interest for laws that are sound and sensible for everyone. One last thing.......the n.y guys seem to have managed to keep the bunker boats out of their side of the raritan which has helped us to a degree even though we don't have the same luxury.

amen.

Sharkyispy 03-19-2014 07:40 AM

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I don't believe much of this was directed to the NY anglers in general as much as it was one individual who chose to rub $h!t in our faces and constantly negative....my .02

italianfisherman 03-19-2014 03:32 PM

Re: To fluke in NY or NJ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve (Post 348174)
I am going to rape ny waters this year!

Also if ever stopped will make sur I tell co's all fish were caught in ny. Let it go towards their quota

it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

shrimpman steve 03-19-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by italianfisherman (Post 348354)
it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

Italian
Your right. Just a sensitive subject.

Capt Sal 03-19-2014 08:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by italianfisherman (Post 348354)
it doesn't matter if you report/rape ny waters, the quota's are across the board from nj,ct,ny, it all counts as ONE..:)

If you looked at the reports we have to fill out every month to maintain our NY permit you would be amazed. If it helped I wouldn't care but it doesn't.

italianfisherman 03-20-2014 05:51 AM

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this whole thing is screw up..


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