These are the summer flounder measures approved by the ASMFC Board for 2012
 

Any recent news about this years fluke regulations?

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hope it stays the same!

These are the summer flounder measures approved by the ASMFC Board for 2012
 

AnglerPaul told me to post this for you guys....


To All,

Below are the summer flounder measures approved by the ASMFC Board for 2012. What they approve is the methodology that come up with these options and more options can be run using this methodology and all these options might not be forward at the advisors for the meeting next week. I have attached the ASMFC file where this is information is located. It also contains other states proposals that were approved for your FYI. This is what will be discussed at next weeks NJMFC Advisors meeting. You can send this out to the club representatives for there input before the meeting but they will have a chance to vote on the options at the next JCAA General meeting since that will happen before the next council meeting. Remember not all these options might be put forward and there could be other options presented.

Whoever goes to the meeting should write up an article for the next JCAA Newspaper. I do not go to these meeting since I see my job as the GA to the ASMFC is to bring back these option for the NJMFC to make a decision.

There were no tables presented for black sea bass since we were not sure what percentage we would be using. The ASMFC Technical Committee will be approving our options in the next couple of weeks before the NJMFC but I will imagine that the Division will have a table reflecting a 57% increase for next weeks advisor meeting. I hope this is helpful.

Tom

New Jersey
2011 Harvest Target: 1,335,000 fish
2011 Landings: 787,234 fish
2012 Harvest Target: 1,090,407 fish
Alteration for 2012: 38% liberalization
2011 Regulations:
Minimum Size: 18�
Possession Limit: 8 fish
Open Season: May 7-September 25
Proposed 2012 Measures:
Option Min Size Bag Limit Open Season Liberalization
1 18� 8 May 7 - September 25 0%
2 18� 8 April 28 - October 14 32%
3 18� 8 April 7 - September 23 32%
4 18� 8 May 5 - October 21 32%
5 17.5� 5 May 5 - September 23 29%
6 17.5� 5 April 29 - September 23 38%
7 17.5� 5 May 5 - September 29 38%

* Liberalization results based on catch per trip from NJ VAS and average coastwide weight per fish of 3.14 pounds
MRIP vs MRFSS Summary:
For 7 out of 8 years, the NJ MRIP landings estimate was less than the NJ MRFSS landings
estimate. From 2004 to 2011 the MRIP annual landings estimate was 10% lower than
MRFSS on average. The 2011 MRIP landings estimate would allow a 50% liberalization vs
a 38% liberalization under MRFSS.
Technical Committee Recommendations: MRFSS and MRIP: Approve
The options for 2012 as proposed are technically valid under MRFSS

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Summer Flounder
(Fluke) May 7 to Sept. 25 18"
See also Fed Regs 8 bag limit;) ;) ;)
See also Fed Regs for 2012

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^^^ subject to change^^^

Lets hope for the better...Season is long enough, a smaller size like 17.5" wood be nice. :cool:

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18inches and 8 bag limit its fine wit me.. just as long as they keep the season open for a good amount of time..

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2011 Landings: 787,234 fish.. we got them good!

Either #3 or #4.. They look the best.. 8 fish which is good.. and long season too.. i dont mind the 18in size limit..

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I agree

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18in is fine.. dnt get greedy bc we could end up like New York FORGET TAT!!

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if I remember right I think NY is 19 1/2 and 3 limit:eek: :eek:

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When they offer smaller size (17.5) take it.....mayn never have another chance

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What about the winter Flounder???:confused: Isn't about time that they change that:confused:

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Big fat winter flounder 10miles east in the summer;). Of course they're not in season for us rec guys:mad:

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X2 Doug for President

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#5 imo.

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MRIP landing estimate. Where does that come from?

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#7 I personally think is the best.

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Option 2 or 4 please!

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Here are the regulations options:

1.. 18 inch @ 8 *fish...May 7 - September 25 0%
2... 18 inch @ 8 fish... April 28 - October 14 32%
3... 18 inch @ 8 fish....April 7 - September 23 32%
4....18 inch @ 8 fish.... May 5 - October 21 32%
5....17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 23 29%
6 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... April 29 - September 23 38%
7 ...17.5 inch @ 5 fish... May 5 - September 29 38%

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#7 works for me, ( of what's listed ). But come on.......trade 3 fish for 1/2 inch?
And offer cold water April fishing? Sept. and October would be way better for some bigger fish gathering up on the lumps.

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#3 or #4

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A chicken and a pig are peering through the dining room window at a family having a breakfast of ham and eggs.

“Doesn’t it make you feel good to know that you can make a contribution to the happiness and well being of a family like that?” the chicken asked.

Making a wry face, the pig replied, “For you it is a contribution, but for me it is total commitment.”

The moral of that story is that decisions on season and size of fish should be made by the people with commitment--the party and charter boat captains. The rest of us are only contributors.

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i like opt #7 i caught a ton of 17 1/2 last season

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I like #2 or #4...

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Doug,
I feel your pain but unfortunately winter flounder are managed? by the New England Marine Fisheries Council.

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I prefer option #3 or #4. Can't wait! :)

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I prefer option #3 or #4. Can't wait! :)

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I'll take a #4 with fries and a small coke!

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A lot would depend on when seabass is closed. If they close it the month of october you would want fluke extended for the sake of party and charter boat captains. That would be #4

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#7 makes most sense to me. although I can see the argument about giving up three fish.

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You can bet most of the fish we will be catching will be right under 17.5 but I'd still prefer the longer season with 18 inch fish.

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No. 4 looks real good.

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Don't give up any fish.For any reasonYou may never get them back again.Would'nt it be nice to have a real winter flounder season again.Man I miss making those chum logs.

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5 or 7 works for me.

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And don't forget Blackfish is closed in Sept and the first three weeks of Oct.

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One vote for #4

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Definitely like option 4 for the late season if the hurricanes don't end it abruptly. # 7 is nice for the half inch but don't like giving up fish. :(

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I like #7 but it should be a six fish limit

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I personally like #4 or #7

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:confused:

:confused:

I see conflicting info here: http://www.asmfc.org/meetings/winter...pplemental.pdf

The ASMFC summary for NJ shows a proposed bag limit of FIVE 17.5" fluke (options 5,6,7 on original poster's message). However the earlier memo from NJ's principal biologist (Table 4 on link above) suggests a FOUR fluke limit in 2012 for 17.5" fish :confused:

Is this merely a "typo" on ASMFC's part or are they being overly generous to NJ ? Inquiring minds need to know . . . . . :confused: