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fishguy 07-02-2013 12:17 PM

Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
Why do so many people use those stupid hooks? They are absolutely the worst hooks ever invented and should be banned for all the fluke they kill.

jmurr711 07-02-2013 12:49 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
now i know its fluke season!

catsmeow 07-02-2013 12:50 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
I know what you mean but have always fished these hooks but like you said a lot of gut hooks. So I bought 5/0 size this year and so far in 3 trips no gut hooks so happy about that. Have tried circles but still the like the english type hooks.

jmurr711 07-02-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
i have seen fluke gut hooked on circle hooks.........

bunker dunker 07-02-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
now i know its fluke season!!!!!!!!! your killing me joe{lol}

jmurr711 07-02-2013 03:16 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunker dunker
now i know its fluke season!!!!!!!!! your killing me joe{lol}

gota take the new lady out for her first trip as soon as the sea robin fishing heats up, u beter be there

JerseyCoast 07-02-2013 03:22 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
We try to encourage our customers to switch over to an Octopus Style Hook because of this same reason. I know many fish are hurt just by the way they are handled before the release, but a hook in the throat is a death sentence.

Fluke have a very large mouth and we have caught shorts on 8/0 hooks intended for another species. a 5/0 is the ideal size, maybe a 4/0, but nothing smaller than that.

There are some interesting videos of fluke taking the bait online. They can follow your bait as long as 3 or 4 minutes sometimes. It was a learning experience watching this. I will see if I can find them....... but once you watch them, you will realize that a 5/0 Octopus Hook is not going to miss fish. They either ambush their prey, or they follow it a while. Either way, that hook is getting inhaled.

Ol Pedro 07-02-2013 04:08 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fishguy
Why do so many people use those stupid hooks? They are absolutely the worst hooks ever invented and should be banned for all the fluke they kill.

I'm not so sure that banning any hook would make that much difference . As others have stated and from what I have seen other hook shapes do it just as often .Kahles are just harder to get out . I fish Octopus hooks because I hook more fish with them . When I gut hook a short Fluke I just cut the leader and release the fish (not that I catch that many Fluke). Nature should rust out the hook in a few days .

njfisherman1975 07-02-2013 06:42 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
Most people that use English style hooks are using pre tied rigs and can't tie their own rig too.

fishguy 07-02-2013 06:52 PM

Re: Worst hooks ever the English Bend/Kahle
 
You can gut hook a fish with any hook but english bends are far more difficult to remove. Long shank hooks are no good for the same reason, you can't spin the hook around in the fishes throat to remove it. Short shank octopus hooks are the best like the Gamakatsu, Owner etc. Even cheap octopus hooks are better than those stupip English bends. Put the word out, guys. Cut those awful hooks off and replace them.


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