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dales529 03-14-2016 08:34 PM

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These questions for Rik remain:
1) WHY does he feel a change as large as an NMS is necessary as well as another layer of governing that comes with it to accomplish his goal? It appears there are enough avenues to use for improvement (if even required)with the existing state agencies laws that run the area.
2)What specific issues and what areas are really in such desperate need for improvement to warrant a NMS?

The lack to date of these answers are my concern for doubt as to the legitimacy of the NMS Nomination and in my opinion the risk is not worth the reward.


RFA-NJ attended the presentation at Keypoint Yacht club. RFA NJ and RFA National will be in attendance on Wed. Will keep you posted on the complete position and what's next.

BarbGailIV 03-14-2016 09:16 PM

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How about an NJ Fishing online petition. I'm in for whatever it takes.

stevelikes2fish 03-15-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dales529 (Post 438063)
RFA is monitoring the situation and will be present for the March 16 meeting in Red Bank to question this nomination for a NMS. All I can say right now as details are being evaluated is this is a major concern as to what the real agenda is. Will keep you posted

Thank you for your support. I will be there supporting you and NJFishing. Hopefully, we get better than the usual zero point five (0.5)percent that normally shows up.

shrimpman steve 03-15-2016 11:20 AM

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I'm trying to work it out so I can come down. It's not easy for me to trek down there on a Wednesday night but I'm gonna try

june181901 03-15-2016 11:41 AM

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Mr Zagorski: Re "sovereignty of the states".

Perhaps you recall years ago when the MADD group got Congress and the DOT to institute a .08 DWI limit. Those states that said no were told simply "there would be no future highway funds if your state was non-compliant". All 50 states and all territories acquiesced soon thereafter.

POWER OF THE PURSE! Or as we used to say in Bayonne 'money talks and bs walks'.

Gerry Zagorski 03-15-2016 11:57 AM

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Same thing with Common Core Education and Obama Care. If you want the feds money as a state you must comply.

bulletbob 03-15-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by june181901 (Post 438474)
Mr Zagorski: Re "sovereignty of the states".

Perhaps you recall years ago when the MADD group got Congress and the DOT to institute a .08 DWI limit. Those states that said no were told simply "there would be no future highway funds if your state was non-compliant". All 50 states and all territories acquiesced soon thereafter.

POWER OF THE PURSE! Or as we used to say in Bayonne 'money talks and bs walks'.

Thats exactly what we can expect from the federal government IF they get involved.. Strong arm tactics/......

Gerry Zagorski 03-15-2016 01:54 PM

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My first question is what is the benefit of making the area a National Marine Sanctuary? If the benefits are compelling enough, can we have some sort of Iron Clad protection from ever making the area an Marine Protected Area.

Another interesting bit of information would be to find out who the people are behind advocating the National Marine Sanctuary and what their underlying motivations are.

See you all at the meeting.

Joey Dah Fish 03-15-2016 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve (Post 438471)
I'm trying to work it out so I can come down. It's not easy for me to trek down there on a Wednesday night but I'm gonna try

Typical Shrimpman response :confused:

Joey Dah Fish 03-15-2016 02:03 PM

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I propose a class action suit against this organization and or the federal government by as many NJ residence as we can get to sign on. Nothing speaks louder than a law suit.


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