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Originally Posted by JBird

Spotter planes for flounder?

Your a funny guy!

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I love to fish ,,,,, both surf and from my skiff out of AHMM and the occasional party boat and off shore 6 pack trip .....

Summary of maiden voyage last spring with my 3 ....14 yearold boys (yea triplets)

* Launching at AHMM in the AM .... boarded by CG for saftey inspection .... 30 min later have my CG inspection sticker ... new boat with all the gear so NP - understand they are doing their jobs....

* First few drifts near the white cans ca out front of Ammo pier ..... always staying outside restricted zone .... twice passed by gun boats ... hey - understand - high security area

* Fishing all day ... throwing back many just short and even a few right at 18 ... just in case ... explaining to my kids ... not worth it if the shrink up a quarter inch during the day

* Pull together a few keepers ..... back at dock ..... F&G checking fish size at the dock .... hey that's fine with me ..... ours wre all over 19 ... glad to see they are checking

My kids were saying ... Dad there are a lot of rules ... I said yea ... the only rules we had when we wer 15 were from my Mom ... saying don't bring home to many fish ....... it makes a mess of the sink ......

Man how things have changed ... I understand all of the rules ... and how they are all for saftey, security and fisheries reasons ..... but they do suck some of the life out of a fun day on the water ..... and for those who make their livelyhood on the water running headboats and charters it must be overwhelming....

I also miss the freedoms of the good old days .....:(

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You guys are on the wrong track, it's the government that's not letting us fish, not he commercial fisherman. Everyone has to stick together. Unitity is power, the government and the treehuggers want the recreational and commercial guys to pass the blame and fight with each other if we unite we will be that much stronger. The more people we have on our side the more power we have. They want rules and regulations so they can hire people to inforce them.

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Toggy, exactly right. Every year a few more fish police with new pick up trucks.

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Freedom is legal but the permit is $250,000 to the political party in power.

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Originally Posted by broken bobber

Bobber and Cold Beer......:D ...... when ya coming home son..... :)

Hey Tom! I am taking my vacation in Chatam, Cape Cod this year; Along with various other fishing trips. I probably will not make it back to NJ. Got my hands on a 27 foot boston whaler outrage. It is docked down the street here in Redondo Beach. Come on out for a visit! Halibut, White Sea Bass, and a bottom fish that is called the giant black sea bass....150 plus lbers! They are protected, similar to goliath grouper, but I know where there are some real monsters and we often run into them. You can not take them out of the water, buy they fight real good like a giant drumfish.

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Originally Posted by Detour66

I have to disagree sir... not even close to what the draggers are bringing in! How can we be close .. they are feeding the masses of the world! Supplying seafood for the restaurants, fish markets, animal food and mass produced frozen fish products. Yeah years back guys would catch and keep more than they should but to say this will compete with a boat with spotter planes and a mother ship, no way! I say freedom .... but not a slaughterer!

i dissagree with you sir.... I blame the bunker situation on the guys throwing cast nets everyday for bunker, sometimes 2-3 x a day, netting 100 plus bunker, then leaving a dead trail of bunker back to dock.. or even blowing threw the bait and going for more on the same trip..... :p

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Toggy, exactly right. Every year a few more fish police with new pick up trucks

After what I have been ready lately "looks like they are doing there job" and that's great.....Hope they keep it up...

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Cast netting bunker is only a fraction of the fish a well placed commercial net will recover. Bait netters may add to the overall catch but tonnage wise I'm positive the bunker boats account for a lot more.
I do agree on wasteful tactics exibitied by some of the sport boats, even then I believe they pale in comparsion to a commercial operation & I am aware that their are commercial bait cast netters operating as well.
If Tuna were a hook & line commercial fish only do you think they would be near extinction in some regions.
My opinion commercial bunker fishing has to be regulated further & then you will see a bunker come back & the cast netters will not even come close to hurting the population now or then.

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Originally Posted by Capt. Lou

If Tuna were a hook & line commercial fish only do you think they would be near extinction in some regions.
My opinion commercial bunker fishing has to be regulated further & then you will see a bunker come back & the cast netters will not even come close to hurting the population now or then.

I totally agree... and you don't need a spotter plane to fiqure that one out! :rolleyes: