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Capt Sal 03-20-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 439037)
There you guys go spewing shit. It money it's politics. You guys are only hurting yourselves with that kind of crap. Do your part and let others do their part. Continuously looking to others to solve your problems is just plain silly. Do it yourself one by one. Talk to your friends, carry the petition. Make people aware. That's how it's done.

Well golly gee Joey! I didn't know it was that simple. I guess when Donald Trump plays up to the NRA he isn't looking for support. I belong and believe in the NRA. No one will take my guns from me. I need the NRA.They protect my rights. I give them money. They use it properly. We as recreational fisherman need support also. We have to pay for it.Silly is thinking that just talking with friends and other fisherman will get the job done. I have been to numerous meetings from bunker to fluke to tuna. Did it help? i hope so but there is a long way to go.I don't think it is ''spewing shit''! That is your opinion .:eek:

Joey Dah Fish 03-20-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Sal (Post 439047)
Well golly gee Joey! I didn't know it was that simple. I guess when Donald Trump plays up to the NRA he isn't looking for support. I belong and believe in the NRA. No one will take my guns from me. I need the NRA.They protect my rights. I give them money. They use it properly. We as recreational fisherman need support also. We have to pay for it.Silly is thinking that just talking with friends and other fisherman will get the job done. I have been to numerous meetings from bunker to fluke to tuna. Did it help? i hope so but there is a long way to go.I don't think it is ''spewing shit''! That is your opinion .:eek:

It is my opinion Sal. You are also entitled to yours. My point is this. The NRA built itself from the ground up person to person. There was no internet no social media. It was people talking to people make others aware. Get themselves involved in a cause they all believed in. That's what needs to be done here. You need to care enough to be directly involved other wise no one will or group will come to your aid. You must show you have a significant following of your cause. So I ask each and everyone of you the truly care to help spread the word. Perhaps print a copy of the petition bring to work, the soccer game, boat you fish on. It requires a movement of people working for people.

scooter1010 03-21-2016 01:23 PM

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Here is a copied and pasted update from the NJ Fisherman magazine.

**UPDATE - MARCH 21, 2016** - Rik van Hemmen AND the Navesink Maritime Heritage Association will be ‘moderating’ a discussion on Wednesday, March 23 beginning at 7 p.m. at Bahrs Landing Restaurant, 1 Bay Avenue in Highlands, NJ. According to the email invitation to “members” of the Navesink Maritime Heritage Association, this ‘round table discussion’ will feature “supporters and questioners from local organizations who have an interest in this subject.”

Given the rich history Bahrs Landing Resturant has with the recreational/commercial fishing industry. I find it very disturbing that this establishment feels it's necessary to keep having meetings from the Navesink Heritage Association. I would suggest that people call Bahrs and voice their displeasure over their lack of better judgement on this matter.

Reelron 03-21-2016 01:52 PM

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This is the email for the person spearheading the push to make Sandy Hook Bay and the Two Rivers area a Marine Sanctuary: rhemmen@martinottaway.com.

Please feel free to send him an email explaining why we do not need this.

scooter1010 03-21-2016 03:33 PM

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This is a quick update to my previous post from The Fisherman magazine.

I called Bahrs Landing and talked to Jay the owner. He said once he got wind of the Navesink Maritime Heritage Society was going to hold a meeting about the National Marine Sanctuary he cancelled the meeting space. I asked him if he knew where they were holding the meeting and he said he didn't know. I don't know of the validity of this but am merely trying to keep everyone in the "loop".

He said there was no way he wanted three hundred fishermen showing up, at his restaurant, in opposition.

Gerry Zagorski 03-21-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter1010 (Post 439135)
This is a quick update to my previous post from The Fisherman magazine.

I called Bahrs Landing and talked to Jay the owner. He said once he got wind of the Navesink Maritime Heritage Society was going to hold a meeting about the National Marine Sanctuary he cancelled the meeting space. I asked him if he knew where they were holding the meeting and he said he didn't know. I don't know of the validity of this but am merely trying to keep everyone in the "loop".

He said there was no way he wanted three hundred fishermen showing up, at his restaurant, in opposition.

Smart move on Jay's part..Bahrs in the Highlands would be like them walking into the belly of the beast. If they think they had a rough time in Red Bank, the Highlands crowd would make that look like a picnic.

NoLimit 03-21-2016 09:35 PM

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Bahrs probably does more business at the bait shop and fuel dock than in the restaurant. You can be sure that they do not want to be any part of any effort to restrict fishing in the rivers or bays.

The problem is, Rik will tell you the same thing. I am not sure that Rik realizes how Fed regs have ruined most of the fisheries.

NoLimit 03-21-2016 09:38 PM

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Also, everyone should email Rik and explain how Fed regs have hurt most of the fisheries in his beloved bay and rivers. I think it is a matter of him not knowing what has happened to juvenile weakfish, winter flounder, fluke. He does not know these regular residents are getting decimated as soon as they go offshore.

njdiver 03-22-2016 07:08 AM

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Mr. van Hemmen has recanted, the Wednesday meeting is cancelled.

NoLimit 03-22-2016 09:48 AM

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And he said it was due to fierce opposition


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