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Gerry Zagorski 11-14-2024 06:50 PM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smach7 (Post 586436)
Broad Bill, your comments on Striped Bass and Chesapeake Bay hit the nail right on the head. Maryland recreational fishing regulations still allow taking of Striped Bass between 19" - 24", and a commercial fishing minimum of 18", helping to destroy one of the last good year classes. Furthermore, there is the Blue Catfish (a manmade problem) which are eating everything in the Bay including young-of-the-year Striped Bass and larvae. New Jersey does not have a commercial Striped Bass fishery. A small percentage is dedicated to the Bonus Tag program. There are several states with commercial Striped Bass fisheries that are very eager to get the regulations changed to transfer New Jersey's un-used commercial Striped Bass quota to their commercial Striped Bass quota, which would result in more Striped Bass being caught and killed.

Oh my some critical thinking here. I love it!

dales529 11-14-2024 07:19 PM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
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Originally Posted by AndyS (Post 586426)
Funny how fishing outside of the EEZ is never mentioned in any of this.

And none of the bass outside the EEZ are in any stock assessment. Something fishy right?

Angler Paul 11-15-2024 12:05 AM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
We may be looking at a15% cut though seasonal closures. Since stripers migrate to different states at different times, states would likely have the authority to set their own seasons as long as it results in the required cut. This is my best guess as to what will happen but there are many other options including doing nothing for 2025. Regardless, a new addendum will be coming out for 2026. Paul Haertel, JCAA Board member

Broad Bill 11-15-2024 09:53 AM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
https://onthewater.com/maryland-dnr-...-straight-year

https://www.asmfc.org/species/atlantic-striped-bass

Read the above two links. Even though female breeders have increased threefold since the 80's, the young of the year index in 2023 for stripers was the second lowest in recorded history. Pollution, over harvest of bunker and predation in Chesapeake Bay have caused this entire problem. Address the pollution, push Omega Protein "OP" out for 5 years. If Virginia or Maryland resist, l ASMFC, NMFS and all other coastal states should take Virginia, Maryland and OP to court. As far as predation in the bay mentioned by another poster, if it's a real problem fix it. If it's a man made problem, there's a man made solution. ASMFC has to own this problem, address the two states causing it and stop causing economic ruination for the remaining Mid-Atlantic and Gulf of Maine states, small businesses, party and charter boat operators and recreational anglers all who have God given rights to access and benefit from this resource. Just do your f&$#@?! jobs and manage the problem you allowed VA., Ma. and OP create.

Again another commercial operation who is single-handedly destroying through residual impacts the single largest reproductive habitat of the striped bass and the federal government and state governments and Committees that oversee this fishery allowed it to happen. Now the same agencies are sounding the alarm and will cause the remainder of the Mid-Atlantic and Gulf of Maine States to pay the consequences of their misguided decisions all so politicians, businesses and the states of Virginia and Maryland can line their pockets.

Broad Bill 11-15-2024 09:55 AM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angler Paul (Post 586442)
We may be looking at a15% cut though seasonal closures. Since stripers migrate to different states at different times, states would likely have the authority to set their own seasons as long as it results in the required cut. This is my best guess as to what will happen but there are many other options including doing nothing for 2025. Regardless, a new addendum will be coming out for 2026. Paul Haertel, JCAA Board member

Paul with all due respect how will any of what you posted help clean up the Chesapeake Bay or change the current status of the striped bass stock. Stop focusing on quotas and start focusing on what it's going to take to save the fishery and then the quotas will take care of themselves.

Gerry Zagorski 11-15-2024 10:16 AM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broad Bill (Post 586447)
https://onthewater.com/maryland-dnr-...-straight-year

https://www.asmfc.org/species/atlantic-striped-bass

Read the above two links. Even though female breeders have increased threefold since the 80's, the young of the year index in 2023 for stripers was the second lowest in recorded history. Pollution, over harvest of bunker and predation in Chesapeake Bay have caused this entire problem. Address the pollution, push Omega Protein "OP" out for 5 years. If Virginia or Maryland resist, l ASMFC, NMFS and all other coastal states should take Virginia, Maryland and OP to court. As far as predation in the bay mentioned by another poster, if it's a real problem fix it. If it's a man made problem, there's a man made solution. ASMFC has to own this problem, address the two states causing it and stop causing economic ruination for the remaining Mid-Atlantic and Gulf of Maine states, small businesses, party and charter boat operators and recreational anglers all who have God given rights to access and benefit from this resource. Just do your f&$#@?! jobs and manage the problem you allowed VA., Ma. and OP create.

Again another commercial operation who is single-handedly destroying through residual impacts the single largest reproductive habitat of the striped bass and the federal government and state governments and Committees that oversee this fishery allowed it to happen. Now the same agencies are sounding the alarm and will cause the remainder of the Mid-Atlantic and Gulf of Maine States to pay the consequences of their misguided decisions all so politicians, businesses and the states of Virginia and Maryland can line their pockets.

More critical thinking here, love it!

Gerry Zagorski 11-15-2024 11:34 AM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broad Bill (Post 586448)
Paul with all due respect how will any of what you posted help clean up the Chesapeake Bay or change the current status of the striped bass stock. Stop focusing on quotas and start focusing on what it's going to take to save the fishery and then the quotas will take care of themselves.

Don’t shoot the messenger here. I think this is Paul’s assumption of how he thinks things will end up, not what he’d like to see.

Broad Bill 11-15-2024 12:21 PM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
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Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski (Post 586453)
Don’t shoot the messenger here. I think this is Paul’s assumption of how he thinks things will end up, not what he’d like to see.

Gerry I agree I could have worded it more clearly. I'm not coming at Paul, my comments are directed as they've always been at the agencies making these horrible decisions and taking no responsibility for their actions. What Paul wrote may well be the outcome but it won't one iota address the problem if it is in fact completely environmentally driven as a result of primarily Omega Protein destroying natures built in filtration system in the bay. That's why I said with all due respect to Paul but could have been more clear in my comments.

There's countless articles about the pollution problem in the Chesapeake caused by relentless harvest of menhaden and the resulting impacts to the entire ecosystem. Agencies, federal and state, have to get off their collective asses and do something about it as opposed to two states, NMFS, ASMFC pandering to the whims of the special interest groups who are making an absolute fortune at everyone else's expense.

Gerry Zagorski 11-15-2024 02:22 PM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broad Bill (Post 586460)
Gerry I agree I could have worded it more clear. I'm not coming at Paul, my comments are directed as they've always been at the agencies making these horrible decisions and taking no responsibility for their actions. What Paul wrote may well be the outcome but it won't one iota address the problem if it is in fact completely environmentally driven as a result of primarily Omega Protein destroying natures built in filtration system in the bay. That's why I said with all due respect to Paul but could have been more clear in my comments.

There's countless articles about the pollution problem in the Chesapeake caused by relentless harvest of menhaden and the resulting impacts to the entire ecosystem. Agencies, federal and state, have to get off their collective asses and do something about it as opposed to two states, NMFS, ASMFC pandering to the whims of the special interest groups who are making an absolute fortune at everyone else's expense.

Agreed!

Gerry Zagorski 11-15-2024 04:39 PM

Re: 2025 Striped Bass Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angler Paul (Post 586442)
We may be looking at a15% cut though seasonal closures. Since stripers migrate to different states at different times, states would likely have the authority to set their own seasons as long as it results in the required cut. This is my best guess as to what will happen but there are many other options including doing nothing for 2025. Regardless, a new addendum will be coming out for 2026. Paul Haertel, JCAA Board member

Sounds about right Paul and thanks for staying on top of this...


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