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Sharkyispy 05-13-2017 12:16 PM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
SO I grew a very large set today. Here is a copy of what I posted on the President of the US page a few seconds ago:

Mr. President, Thank you for all you have done in the early days of your appointment to POTUS. I respect what you stand for and what you have done and are doing. Specifically with attempting to help keep jobs in America and creating a better economy for all. That said, I am asking you to consider reviewing what is currently taking place with the fishery and more specifically recreational fishing business along the Mid Atlantic area. There are those who are currently decimating the business, peripheral businesses and livelihoods of very hard working individuals who depend on the business to support their families by being able to take anglers out to enjoy a passion and respectable outlet for many. These organizations, ASMFC and the MAFMC are destroying lives based on what they term as scientific evidence showing that rod and reels of fishermen are killing fish populations, specifically summer fluke and sea bass which they have recently enacted further restrictions of. Their science is flawed and quite backwards as they are now forcing us to catch and kill the larger, breeder fish which will have greater impact to the species. Anglers are already cancelling fishing trips just based on this week's announcement that NJ must abide by or be forced to have even tighter and more ridiculous size limitations.Mr. President, If you want to demonstrate how you are willing to work with Businesses and Organizations to help maintain and create jobs and reduce unemployment, this is a time I would deplore you to become involved and prevent this complete decimation of an industry which means so much to so many, including myself personally. This enactment of skewed scientific regulations also affects many states other than NJ as well and will have sweeping repercussion. I hope this will reach you and that you will consider how and what can be done to assist the many people in this industry before it's too late. I truly thank you for any consideration you can afford to this or can work with Governor's like Gov. Christie to intercede.

Capt John 05-13-2017 02:25 PM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Cream Bill (Post 481884)
Paul,

Didn't you post on here months ago that JCAA and other organizations would fight tough against these agencies and risk NJ being out of compliance regarding these proposed fluke regulations? Who decided to "cave in" and accept this so-called "compromise" of 3 fluke @ 19" with a much shorter season?

Imagine 6-pack charter captains, many who are sponsors on this site, losing 20+ days with a shorter season at an average $750-$800 per trip? Has anyone taken into account the financial impact on them?

Regarding sea bass, I heard the regs have been changed to 5 fish? I have an offshore trip scheduled on a NS boat in Point Pleasant. Now I'm spending $200 to catch 5 fish? $40 per fish? I don't think so. Even now, when spring porgy fishing in NY, you can't get to the bottom without pulling up sea bass.

"Worst available science" by NOAA and these other agencies.
Enough is enough!

My exact sentiment....who the hell caved in? Whatever happened to "enough is enough"? All I heard for weeks was "now that Trump is our president, he'll help us out" ditto with Commerce Secretary Ross..."oh he's pro business, he won't let us down". Where the hell are these guys now and their support? Compromise....BULL****
We either use the support we had at Pt. Pleasant (remember that day guys?) or put our tails between our legs. Horrible development. Starting a charter business in NJ?...think twice all you retirees. 5@18 for 128 and nothing less...NOTHING!

Capt John 05-13-2017 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tagged fish (Post 481889)
some call it
compromise

most of us call it getting
fu@ked.

Out of compliance
or nothing

fight it
or fillet an release



grow a set people

way to go chad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d

Reel Class 05-16-2017 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigal427 (Post 481858)
What compromise? We are getting screwed and have been for many years. The people in charge of making these decisions have no clue on what they are doing and making their decisions with faulty data. I feel they won't be happy until they stop us from fishing altogether.

Well said agree 100%

Reel Class 05-16-2017 05:58 AM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ice cream bill (Post 481884)
paul,

didn't you post on here months ago that jcaa and other organizations would fight tough against these agencies and risk nj being out of compliance regarding these proposed fluke regulations? Who decided to "cave in" and accept this so-called "compromise" of 3 fluke @ 19" with a much shorter season?

Imagine 6-pack charter captains, many who are sponsors on this site, losing 20+ days with a shorter season at an average $750-$800 per trip? Has anyone taken into account the financial impact on them?

Regarding sea bass, i heard the regs have been changed to 5 fish? I have an offshore trip scheduled on a ns boat in point pleasant. Now i'm spending $200 to catch 5 fish? $40 per fish? I don't think so. Even now, when spring porgy fishing in ny, you can't get to the bottom without pulling up sea bass.

"worst available science" by noaa and these other agencies.
Enough is enough!

amen!!!!!

Scrubby 05-16-2017 08:12 AM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
Chad is right. It's either stick to your guns and really say enough is enough, and not only be noncompliant but STAY noncompliant. Or every one needs to be pirates and tell the Feds f you and your bs regs. Nothing has worked to this point. Something different needs to be done

bunker dunker 05-16-2017 08:31 AM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
the only position we are in is a bad one.i too agree that enough is enough.they laugh when we march,send letters and carry on,you think they really care.i say we all get together and hit them were it hurts.lets spend a bunch of their money and time!!!!!

Ry609 05-16-2017 10:20 AM

Re: JCAA Position on Fluke Regulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubby (Post 482178)
Chad is right. It's either stick to your guns and really say enough is enough, and not only be noncompliant but STAY noncompliant. Or every one needs to be pirates and tell the Feds f you and your bs regs. Nothing has worked to this point. Something different needs to be done

I certainly wouldn't say a word if I saw anybody keeping flounder this Sunday


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