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Joey Dah Fish 06-04-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave A (Post 406719)
First of all it is 7 fish per trip, not per day. Just wondering what if anything you did specifically regarding this issue. I ask this because the only reason we even have 7 fish per trip is because enough people called Sen Booker's office concerned over this issue. I noticed that there were no rec anglers besides myself at this past Tues night scoping meeting on bluelines. In fact there were only 2 captains there; Capt Jeff Gutman from the Voyager and Capt Jim Cicchiti from the Atlantic Star (Wildwood). None of the "famous" six pack tilefish charter boats bothered to show up.

You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

UglyStick 06-04-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 406742)
You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

Joey Dah Fish 06-04-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 406745)
Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

They are paying fares and entitled to there catch. NJ rec anglers really don't put any significant pressure on tiles in our area. The reason for limit is the commercial fleets from other areas bring their catch in to NJ because we didn't have a limit. So all the fish they brought in were counted as caught in NJ and of course they can catch many more than their home port. That is my understanding.

jjdbike 06-04-2015 08:36 PM

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First off thank you Dave, Jeff & Jim for going. I would have been there it it were possible. Also thank you to those who called Bookers office. This seems like a sweeping and inappropriate over-reach of power especially w/out good local science to support such decisions.
JD

stevelikes2fish 06-04-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trident 13 (Post 406648)
That blows,on a 5 day trip starting the 22nd. Hope plenty of barrel and wreck fishing to make up for difference

You might want to check on the federal regs for wreck fish............Prohibited

2015 FEDERAL RECREATIONAL FISHING REGULATIONS FOR MINIMUM SIZE, POSSESSION LIMITS AND SEASONS

PaBeerGuy 06-04-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jjdbike (Post 406754)
First off thank you Dave, Jeff & Jim for going. I would have been there it it were possible. Also thank you to those who called Bookers office. This seems like a sweeping and inappropriate over-reach of power especially w/out good local science to support such decisions.
JD

I too want to thank Dave and Jeff for attending the "scoping" meeting and putting in their 2 cents for what it bought us. They(FEDS) could have taken it away completely but were convinced otherwise.
How do the commercial guys catch enough tile to earn a living anyway. You hardly ever see it on a menu, is there enough demand somewhere? And how would you go about catching them commercially to begin with? Nets or by longlines?

Jigman13 06-04-2015 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PaBeerGuy (Post 406768)
I too want to thank Dave and Jeff for attending the "scoping" meeting and putting in their 2 cents for what it bought us. They(FEDS) could have taken it away completely but were convinced otherwise.
How do the commercial guys catch enough tile to earn a living anyway. You hardly ever see it on a menu, is there enough demand somewhere? And how would you go about catching them commercially to begin with? Nets or by longlines?

Longlines.

Dave A 06-04-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 406742)
You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

I am not bitter Joe just frustrated. For years (since 1981) I have been involved in fisheries issues and no matter what fishery, the same few industry members get involved. Afterwards, the bitching and complaining about the regs starts from the for hire captains and tackle shop owners. This was a very historic issue due to the involvement of the SAMFC. If they got their way and forced their emergency action on us it would have established a very bad precedence for future regs especially since there was no science to back them up.

Dave A 06-04-2015 11:37 PM

Re: New tilefish restrictions take effect immediately
 
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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish (Post 406742)
You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

BTW Joe, my rant about the 6 pack boats was because many of them sail from Cape May yet they couldn't find the time to attend a meeting in their backyard. Jeff and I drove close to 2 hours in miserable weather each way to make sure our voices were heard. As industry members I feel we speak for our businesses and our customers.

EEL killer 06-05-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick (Post 406745)
Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

Not to start trouble but by your rational should we not post pictures of our harvest at all ? and where does it stop ? First tile fish then seabass ,fluke ,stripers? I fish for the thrill of the fight and the thrill of catching a big fish ,personally I don't eat fish but if the regulations say you can take a certain amount then why not? The pictures u r referring to are from our last 2 trips .We took 11-12 fish per man with the new regs it's going to be 7 fish per man so not that much different but now we should be afraid to post pics in fear that they will close it? It just does not make sense .


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