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frugalfisherman 03-27-2013 07:46 AM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
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PALMERS TACKLE 03-27-2013 08:11 AM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
I really disagree with the bumping up of the line rating--no offense.And don't use clips swivels or anything else. Line to line using your preferred choice knot is the best way. If you are using straight mono tie a dropper at the end and come up 15" for a second dropper loop attach jig or top hook to each dropper.
I fish mainly the Ocean Explorer and the BM in Belmar and i think Capt Bobby would agree he has the best fluke fisherman and the guys who put more meat in the box using lighter line and the lightest jig weight possible. I use 15-20# test period..
Even when fishing down off cape may in 90' of water and 8 oz. jigs i use 20 # and my hooKup rate is better than those using 30-50#
guicker sink rate, better jig twitch which entices the strike.
The key is to adjust the drag and line pull on the reel and watch the water and listen to and work with the mate. Most good mates will tell you when to lift and when to direct the fish into the net rather than just stabbing at the fish..although i have seen both. Mates on the OE will drop the net into the water and have you bring fish into net while they scoop it ..The best way
Also if your standing back too far and can't see fish adjust your leader length
(assuming You are using a mono shock leader and braid setup) mono length around 3' will help
Just a humble opinion and a way that works well for me.
Hope i helped
Tony

anchor joe 03-27-2013 08:14 AM

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Well said Capt. Ron. I've never been let down on the Fishermen. The Capt. makes sure the mate is there for all possible big fish.

Sharkyispy 03-27-2013 09:10 AM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PALMERS TACKLE
I really disagree with the bumping up of the line rating--no offense.And don't use clips swivels or anything else. Line to line using your preferred choice knot is the best way. If you are using straight mono tie a dropper at the end and come up 15" for a second dropper loop attach jig or top hook to each dropper.
I fish mainly the Ocean Explorer and the BM in Belmar and i think Capt Bobby would agree he has the best fluke fisherman and the guys who put more meat in the box using lighter line and the lightest jig weight possible. I use 15-20# test period..
Even when fishing down off cape may in 90' of water and 8 oz. jigs i use 20 # and my hooKup rate is better than those using 30-50#
guicker sink rate, better jig twitch which entices the strike.
The key is to adjust the drag and line pull on the reel and watch the water and listen to and work with the mate. Most good mates will tell you when to lift and when to direct the fish into the net rather than just stabbing at the fish..although i have seen both. Mates on the OE will drop the net into the water and have you bring fish into net while they scoop it ..The best way
Also if your standing back too far and can't see fish adjust your leader length
(assuming You are using a mono shock leader and braid setup) mono length around 3' will help
Just a humble opinion and a way that works well for me.
Hope i helped
Tony

Tony fish the bow quite often with my bud and Bobby, Jeff and Mike will give us an earful if we're not calling early on! They don't like to lose the JUUUUUMMMMBBBOOOO'S LOL

HDMarc 03-27-2013 09:17 AM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PALMERS TACKLE
I fish mainly the Ocean Explorer and the BM in Belmar and i think Capt Bobby would agree he has the best fluke fisherman and the guys who put more meat in the box using lighter line and the lightest jig weight possible. I use 15-20# test period..
Tony

I fish the OE too and can say that mates Jeff and Mike will ask if seeing your rod doubled over if you have a keeper while rushing to grab the net for you. I think they'd much rather have the net ready and available than lose a good fish. Bobby talked me into switching to 20 lb tackle with great results, conditions permitting

LegalEyes 03-27-2013 09:59 AM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
My issue would be keeping the drag set were it is and focus on fighting the fish. Not rushing it.

PALMERS TACKLE 03-27-2013 04:51 PM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharkyispy
Tony fish the bow quite often with my bud and Bobby, Jeff and Mike will give us an earful if we're not calling early on! They don't like to lose the JUUUUUMMMMBBBOOOO'S LOL

Bobby is one of the nicest Generally respectful guys on the dock--but if you wanna really piss him off :eek: Yep call for a net on a jumbo after it surfaces..boy you will hear the steam shooting out his ears!!! AND RIGHTFULLY SO!!

PALMERS TACKLE 03-27-2013 04:54 PM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LegalEyes
My issue would be keeping the drag set were it is and focus on fighting the fish. Not rushing it.

I agree 100% and i actually realized i didn't specify at the dock in my originall post about adjusting drag. corrected that i 99% of the time will never adjust drag during a fight...and if i do never when a fish is taking drag..

PALMERS TACKLE 03-27-2013 05:01 PM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharkyispy
Tony fish the bow quite often with my bud and Bobby, Jeff and Mike will give us an earful if we're not calling early on! They don't like to lose the JUUUUUMMMMBBBOOOO'S LOL

Hey mike i've met you before--not sure if you remember but i was a few down in the 4/5 spot and took the pool that day..Think my family has known bobby for at least 25 yrs--Good Guy/Great Captain Even if he is vertically challenged :eek: Ok this is starting to sound like a love fest :D

makosnax 03-27-2013 05:39 PM

Re: question for fluke bucktailers
 
Dont be afraid to call net early. Too many times ive seen fish lost at the boat because the fisherman wanted to see the fish before making the call. And for gods sake keep the fishes head under water. Better to have a false alarm than a lost doormat.


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