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Duffman 09-05-2019 07:26 PM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
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Originally Posted by KMAC (Post 536787)
We don't fish and travel offshore because it's safe. We do it for the experience. Of course we take precautions. But if you want to play it safe, stay home and watch Netflix. Here's a quote that sums it up: “A ship in harbor is safe — but that is not what ships are built for.” — John A. Shedd.

Sorry, I respectfully call that total BS. I travel offshore to catch and ONLY IF it is safe.

Respecting.. weather, boat , equipment and crew. Never ever would I take the fishing experience over coming back home safe.

Maybe Im getting old and the balls have shrunk, but to me coming home is the key.

Gerry Zagorski 09-06-2019 05:17 AM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
A real tragedy...

Putting yourself in harms way on purpose is one thing, an accident like this us yet another.

There are risks involved in just about anything you do but you take precautions to minimize them. Even so, and it seems in this case, things can and do happen...

Call me what you'd like, but I'll make the choice to sit home and watch Netflix if I have the slightest indication there is any sort of risk for me and my crew. No fish or "experience" is worth risking your life for...

"There are old pilots and bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots"

Capt. Debbie 09-06-2019 10:46 AM

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Living spaces with smoke detectors and CO detectors? Fire hoses that work. Pumps that work on a wooden boat.

There's fire watches. and standing watches. The fire was VERY well advanced before even being noticed. Fire was supposedly started in the kitchen/galley.... it doesn't have windows to notice the ship is emitting an awful lot of light.

Yes some places in boats don't have multiple exits.

There's more to this story than just " sh*t happens" and "we assume risks"

Again... the boat was wood.... screams POS too.


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Originally Posted by PaulNreel (Post 536850)
If you put a room in your basement you need to have a secondary means of egress. The dive boat passed cost guard inspection and the dive operation seem to be a reputable outfit. I don't think there is any neglegence here (we still need to know what the cook was doing at 3:30am). Given the publicity that this has received I would not be surprised if new regs will require a secondary exit. But current boats will be grandfathered and new boats wil have them.

The thing I find curious is how violent the fire was. When I go offshore the hull of the boats is metal (Aluminum?) and there is little flamable materials on deck. I just don't see what could have sustained the fire.

Datacenters have stopped using Halon for safety reasons. Halon shut a fire down immediatly, great stuff. But Halon is heavier than air and anybody below deck will have a problem breathing.

We depend on the captain and crew to keep us safe, they usually do, but there is risk that cant be removed by regs.


shrimpman steve 09-06-2019 01:40 PM

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I believe the boat was made in early eighties. Everyone says very well respected and well run operation. No evidence of anything but a tragedy so far. Can we wait for an investigation before judging the Capt or the owner. If warranted after an investigation if someone is criminally liable let em fry. Until then no one should point fingers

That’s all I got to say bout that.

bigfishy 09-06-2019 06:37 PM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
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Originally Posted by shrimpman steve (Post 536972)
I believe the boat was made in early eighties. Everyone says very well respected and well run operation. No evidence of anything but a tragedy so far. Can we wait for an investigation before judging the Capt or the owner. If warranted after an investigation if someone is criminally liable let em fry. Until then no one should point fingers

That’s all I got to say bout that.

Well said....give it a minute er three before passing judgement....

Gerry Zagorski 09-06-2019 06:50 PM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
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Originally Posted by shrimpman steve (Post 536972)
I believe the boat was made in early eighties. Everyone says very well respected and well run operation. No evidence of anything but a tragedy so far. Can we wait for an investigation before judging the Capt or the owner. If warranted after an investigation if someone is criminally liable let em fry. Until then no one should point fingers

That’s all I got to say bout that.

Well said Steve and I couldn’t agree more!!

ytuna 09-08-2019 10:56 AM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
I have been offshore on a number of party boats. I can't remember any that did not have at least one emergency exit from the sleeping area.

I do remember very well that some of the customers that sailed on these vessels thought nothing of piling their equipment on the hatch that allowed for emergency exits. In all cases these hatches were clearly marked. Safety at sea is everybody's business. Check out the exits when you get on board. Keep exit hatches clear. And don't open doors that are supposed to stay shut.

shrimpman steve 09-08-2019 12:05 PM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
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Originally Posted by ytuna (Post 537031)
I have been offshore on a number of party boats. I can't remember any that did not have at least one emergency exit from the sleeping area.

I do remember very well that some of the customers that sailed on these vessels thought nothing of piling their equipment on the hatch that allowed for emergency exits. In all cases these hatches were clearly marked. Safety at sea is everybody's business. Check out the exits when you get on board. Keep exit hatches clear. And don't open doors that are supposed to stay shut.

Amen bill!

Merle31483 09-08-2019 05:41 PM

Re: Dive Boat Tragedy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ytuna (Post 537031)
I have been offshore on a number of party boats. I can't remember any that did not have at least one emergency exit from the sleeping area.

I do remember very well that some of the customers that sailed on these vessels thought nothing of piling their equipment on the hatch that allowed for emergency exits. In all cases these hatches were clearly marked. Safety at sea is everybody's business. Check out the exits when you get on board. Keep exit hatches clear. And don't open doors that are supposed to stay shut.

Exactly


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