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thmyorke1 10-26-2018 10:47 AM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
Reminds me when I was walking back in the dark on a 1 mile trail through the woods cause I stayed too long fishing. Damn I was scared lol. I couldnt imagine wading. I already get nervous wading where I cant see.

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Originally Posted by Dave B. (Post 519110)
Those browns look to be clearly 2 different strains. The second one I clearly recognize, the first could be from a couple different sources though.

Neat, im wondering how to identify them. Based on color and pattern?

Chrisper4694 10-26-2018 01:48 PM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
the timer on this one that got dunked was not really working anyway so oh well haha. I have some older model cameras that probably take decent pics, but if i bought a new one i'd def get a waterproof. I keep it in a ziplock bag too andy, but it was out cause i just used it haha.

I'm not a big fan of the still pics that the go-pro takes honestly, unless the newer ones take better pics.

Chrisper4694 10-26-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by akoop (Post 519055)
Great browns, that last rainbow has been eating well! Sorry to hear about your camera but as usual great story.

oh yeah that one bow was a flabby bellied porker. hell of a fight too. the selfie pic is terrible to show it's true size but it was def a piggy.

akoop 10-26-2018 04:46 PM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
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Originally Posted by Chrisper4694 (Post 519136)
the timer on this one that got dunked was not really working anyway so oh well haha. I have some older model cameras that probably take decent pics, but if i bought a new one i'd def get a waterproof. I keep it in a ziplock bag too andy, but it was out cause i just used it haha.

I'm not a big fan of the still pics that the go-pro takes honestly, unless the newer ones take better pics.

The Olympus TG-5 Waterproof Camera is a great camera for around $450.

Dave B. 10-28-2018 01:13 AM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
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Originally Posted by thmyorke1 (Post 519123)
Neat, im wondering how to identify them. Based on color and pattern?

Yeah, pretty much. The spotting patterns of various strains tend to run pretty consistent as do the colorations. However, coloration is very often variable and subject to water color, clarity, streambed color, light levels and spawning seasons. Despite those variables the base shadings often have some degree of consistency to them.
Spotting patterns, spot shapes, and the presence or absence of red, orange, and/or 'haloed' spots generally tend to run with a great dal of consistency within a given hatchery strain or wild population. Chris' second brown has both a coloration and more importantly a spotting pattern and shape that is very consistent with both PA state fish and at least one private hatchery in PA that I sometimes purchase fish from, whereas the first one is far more consistently patterned like an old NJ state fish, most of our NJ wild browns, and to a lesser degree somewhat similar to the fish from the Mancini's Musky Trout Hatchery.
Judging by the overall appearance I would guess both fish are from some hatchery source rather than wild, although the first one could possibly be a wild fish. It's tough to say w/o a closer look on that one.
Again, this is all just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary.

thmyorke1 10-28-2018 09:54 PM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
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Originally Posted by Dave B. (Post 519204)
Yeah, pretty much. The spotting patterns of various strains tend to run pretty consistent as do the colorations. However, coloration is very often variable and subject to water color, clarity, streambed color, light levels and spawning seasons. Despite those variables the base shadings often have some degree of consistency to them.
Spotting patterns, spot shapes, and the presence or absence of red, orange, and/or 'haloed' spots generally tend to run with a great dal of consistency within a given hatchery strain or wild population. Chris' second brown has both a coloration and more importantly a spotting pattern and shape that is very consistent with both PA state fish and at least one private hatchery in PA that I sometimes purchase fish from, whereas the first one is far more consistently patterned like an old NJ state fish, most of our NJ wild browns, and to a lesser degree somewhat similar to the fish from the Mancini's Musky Trout Hatchery.
Judging by the overall appearance I would guess both fish are from some hatchery source rather than wild, although the first one could possibly be a wild fish. It's tough to say w/o a closer look on that one.
Again, this is all just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary.

Thanks Dave :)

JDTuna 10-29-2018 09:18 AM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
Awesome trout! I have a hard enough time staying upright walking during the day...cant even think about how tough it would be at night!

Chrisper4694 10-29-2018 01:40 PM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
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Originally Posted by JDTuna (Post 519271)
Awesome trout! I have a hard enough time staying upright walking during the day...cant even think about how tough it would be at night!

you know what went through my head "this must be what justin feels like during the day" haha jk and of course i took just as bad a spill in full daylight last time we went to PA too, my ass cheek just stopped hurting the other day HAHA, what the hell is wrong with us :o

Chrisper4694 10-29-2018 01:45 PM

Re: Some fine NJ trouting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave B. (Post 519204)
Yeah, pretty much. The spotting patterns of various strains tend to run pretty consistent as do the colorations. However, coloration is very often variable and subject to water color, clarity, streambed color, light levels and spawning seasons. Despite those variables the base shadings often have some degree of consistency to them.
Spotting patterns, spot shapes, and the presence or absence of red, orange, and/or 'haloed' spots generally tend to run with a great dal of consistency within a given hatchery strain or wild population. Chris' second brown has both a coloration and more importantly a spotting pattern and shape that is very consistent with both PA state fish and at least one private hatchery in PA that I sometimes purchase fish from, whereas the first one is far more consistently patterned like an old NJ state fish, most of our NJ wild browns, and to a lesser degree somewhat similar to the fish from the Mancini's Musky Trout Hatchery.
Judging by the overall appearance I would guess both fish are from some hatchery source rather than wild, although the first one could possibly be a wild fish. It's tough to say w/o a closer look on that one.
Again, this is all just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary.

I've tried and tried to identify these fish but idk if it can ever be done with true accuracy, though your explanations are some of the most coherent i've heard. All i can tell you is they're def not state stocked fish and i was in Jersey so they'd have a long way to go from PA across the delaware but i guess anything is possible. more likely a private stocking from the hatchery you're thinking of. although i will say it isn't one of your fish from the spot you told me you stock.


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