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Skunk City
07-12-2016, 10:45 AM
Hit a local stream that eventually dumps into the Big P last night for some bait. I originally thought the stream was populated with Golden Shiners until I started catching these guys. Did some quick Googling last night and could not find a decisive answer. Any ideas? These fish were 6" max with no bigger fish present. Attached is a picture of a true Goldie that was on the wrong side of a Pike attack this spring for comparison ;).

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/QuikSilverSRT4/Fishing%20Photos/20160711_192148_zpsykqvuval.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/QuikSilverSRT4/media/Fishing%20Photos/20160711_192148_zpsykqvuval.jpg.html)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/QuikSilverSRT4/Fishing%20Photos/20160711_191457_zpsq2ab602q.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/QuikSilverSRT4/media/Fishing%20Photos/20160711_191457_zpsq2ab602q.jpg.html)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/QuikSilverSRT4/Fishing%20Photos/20160303_165946_zpsz12pt8gq.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/QuikSilverSRT4/media/Fishing%20Photos/20160303_165946_zpsz12pt8gq.jpg.html)
Mikey topaz
07-12-2016, 11:12 AM
Thats petey my pet goldfish!
saxmatt
07-12-2016, 12:10 PM
The 1st one might be a goldfish/koi hybrid, 2nd one is a wild goldfish. They are pretty common in NJ, especially around the Passiac and Rahway.
Skunk City
07-12-2016, 01:03 PM
Thats petey my pet goldfish!

No no no, that's lunch for the original Petey!
Skunk City
07-12-2016, 01:04 PM
The 1st one might be a goldfish/koi hybrid, 2nd one is a wild goldfish. They are pretty common in NJ, especially around the Passiac and Rahway.

You think the first one was bucket stocked? I saw maybe 5 similar ones, threw it back and kept the grayish ones.
Delawareriver
07-12-2016, 02:17 PM
Believe both are goldfish. The bright ones typically don't survive long enough to spawn so through natural selection the brown plain colored ones take over.
buzzbaiter
07-12-2016, 06:29 PM
Looks like a baby carp to me...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/EscapeIsNever/Fishing%20pictures/carp2.jpg
icebadger
07-12-2016, 07:25 PM
the third photo is a big shinner aka roach or roosk that fish took a beating. the orange one looks like a koi,it probably got in the river from the floods that the superstorms made happen.anybody that had a landscape with one of those plastic koi ponds probably washed into the river.if they lived close to the river it more than likely happened.
saxmatt
07-12-2016, 07:40 PM
Buzzbaiter's fish is a goldfish as well. Rob, they were probably both born in the stream. There is a large breeding population in NJ, and Lou could be right about the orange one being a goldfish too but it's tough to tell. There are tons of koi around also and goldfish, koi, and carp can all breed with each other resulting in some cool looking hybrids.
FASTEDDIE29
07-12-2016, 07:47 PM
I got it, I got it!!!!

AFTER 12 hours of research I've come to the conclusion that.....................""ITS ALLLLLLLLL BAIT!!!!"" HAHA!!!!!:)
saxmatt
07-12-2016, 08:04 PM
I got it, I got it!!!!

AFTER 12 hours of research I've come to the conclusion that.....................""ITS ALLLLLLLLL BAIT!!!!"" HAHA!!!!!:)

Lol, any fish under 20" is bait ;)
Delawareriver
07-12-2016, 08:43 PM
Looks like a baby carp to me...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/EscapeIsNever/Fishing%20pictures/carp2.jpg

Nope carp and koi have barbels, goldfish do not. Those fish do not so makes me think goldfish.
zhitoman
07-13-2016, 12:42 AM
I've been looking for them for years! Where can I catch them? It brings back memories from my childhood.
Dave B.
07-13-2016, 02:42 PM
Nope carp and koi have barbels, goldfish do not. Those fish do not so makes me think goldfish.

D'river wins it. Both are goldfish, just another invasive non-native. Catch all you want, use 'em for bait but do not release any leftovers anywhere except into the woods or your home garden for fertilizer! No need to introduce them into any other waterways if they don't already exist there!