Our Lakes Need to Turn Over!

[ScowardNJ]

Been a slow week of eye chasing on our Jersey lakes. Fished GWL last Thursday from 10Am till 7pm with one eye at 20" and a few smallies. Then fished the big pond today from 6Am till 6pm with 2 eyes to 18" and a pair of crappies to show for it. Thermos lingering around 35'-40'. We are almost at the turnover, can't come soon enough!
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[Chrisper4694]

nice fish man, and YES THEY DO! we're stuck on the brink!

[FASTEDDIE29]

Relax, jig, BOOM!!! Yea, yea, yea! Change over time. Let's gooooooooooooo!!!

[XXlyakattacker]

I'm still a little green at freshwater fishing. What is turnover and why do we need it?

[ScowardNJ]

It's when the summer warm/higher O2 layer of water mixes with the deeper cold/low O2 water. The water become consistent throughout the entire column and the fun fish move to deep structure, and get really hungry.

http://awwatersheds.org/cms/assets/lake-strat.gif

[FASTEDDIE29]

It means " Walleye or DIE"

[Skunk City]

First pic looks like you pulled that thing through the ice! Nice going bud!

[Eskimo]

It's when the summer warm/higher O2 layer of water mixes with the deeper cold/low O2 water. The water become consistent throughout the entire column and the fun fish move to deep structure, and get really hungry.

http://awwatersheds.org/cms/assets/lake-strat.gif



I don't understand that picture. Why would there be a turnover in the spring when the water warms on top and the colder water is on the bottom?
Since the colder, more dense water is on the bottom, wouldn't the water just remain where it is and just slowly be heated from the top down from the sun?


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[bigfishy]

Maybe they should have just left out the circle of arrows in that particular pic, but
i think its more or less just showing uniform temps throughout the water coloumn....The temps in the diagrams are the key while the arrows and thermo lines are for dummies like myself:D

So if we get particular about this corner pic it shows the water temps in spring shortly after ice out.....understandable??
Additionally it only shows real temperature variations in the summer and not so much in the other seasons.....Which we ALL know is not the case....There are lots of temp varietions throughout the yr., they are just more pronounced in summer...If they were to show the actually changes and turnovers there would need to be five to ten little pics with more than just circle arrows and thermo lines....Still wit me???

Gr8 diagram Scoward!!!! I think it shows the general rule of turnovers

[Mikey topaz]

Nice shirt scotty boy, u aint first ur last

[ScowardNJ]

I worked all morning on that picture!!!!! Hahaha. Who cares about ice out conditions right now....just look at the fall picture and let's get to some deep water jigging because this turnover period sucks!

[FASTEDDIE29]

The turnover SUCKS!!!

Jig em up FELLAZ!!!

IF YOUR NOT FIRST YOUR LAST!!!

Living on the EDGE!!!

WALLEYE OR DIE!!!
:):D:cool:

[XXlyakattacker]

Thanks. Is it posible to see the thermocline on your sonar?

[ScowardNJ]

Thanks. Is it posible to see the thermocline on your sonar?

Yessir, go out in over 40' of water and turn up the sensitivity on your sonar. Any decent unit should pick it up. I would think any lake under 20' would be turned over by now. The deeper lakes are at that turnover point right now. You might have to wait until next summer or take a ride south or off shore to pick one up now.

[Ken Lyons]

I know where this will lead but... There is no such thing as turnover. As the upper layer cools in the Fall it reaches the temperature of the the thermocline and it is absorbed. This eliminates the barrier between the upper and lower layer but it doesn't force any mixing. The water at the lower depths is the coldest and th heavyest. It will mix but not until the surface water gets colder than the lower layer. This happens later. The thermocline gets absorbed when the surface gets down into the mid 50's. Water is heaviest at 39 degrees. When it gets that cold it sinks to the bottom.

[Chrisper4694]

i think it's just the wording that is confusing. The thermocline (if the lake gets one) becomes no more...that's all...idk why it's called turnover

[jimmythegreek]

and remember that you can still fish 25 and less all year long w no issues, the thermo doesnt kick up until deeper water........and this year I barely saw one ever, only on a rly calm night in deep water.........If you go out past 25ft and see marks on the bottom, theres no worry, jig them puppies up

[Ken Lyons]

It depends on the lake. Thermoclines can occur shallower than 25 but will work lower through the Summer. Some really big lakes have npmore than one.