9 boats on small lake, that's crazy

[bowzonly]

Assunpink this am, could see 9 boats without turning my head. As I was leaving #9 was getting started. He said there were 7 on the smaller lake and he saw a guy keeping a bunch of bass (he said like 8 or 12?) under 12 inches. I'm done with that lake. Last week there were 5 boats on a 72 acre lake. Two were 30k bass boats. That seems to me like a poor return on your investment when the average NJ bass weighs 1.5 pounds.

[Eskimo]

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Aren't most public waters in New Jersey crammed with anglers and being looted by poachers? I'm not where else you could go except leave the state.

Assunpink is supposed to be a 'lunkers regulation' lake with a 15-minimum size limit. I guess law enforcement is so scarce there is no reason for that poacher to even bother hiding his loot.



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[UglyStick]

I hope you called the Game Thief hotline on his azz...

[bowzonly]

The guy said they were taken from the smaller lake so that doesnt fall under the trophy regs. And I have gone out of state. Thats why I.m getting more and more disgusted with NJ. On another crowded lake on 10/12 another boater said it best 50'000 people all fishing on tupperware sized lakes. These fish must see 100 lures a week. Am seriously thinking of not buying any licenses (hunting or fishing ) in NJ next year. Its not so much the money (although it would give me a few more bucks to spend out of state) its all the waisted time.

[15FOOTER]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I have been on popular lakes on a lot of sat and sundays and have been the only boat. Have also been out when its crowded. I feel your pain when its crowded but are ya really going to stop fishing NJ because NY PA are sooo much better??

[15FOOTER]

Sandy Hook was a mad house this weekend with boats blasting through schools of albies screwing everything up. From now on I will only fish Montaulk.

[Wilson]

Sandy Hook was a mad house this weekend with boats blasting through schools of albies screwing everything up. From now on I will only fish Montaulk.

The traffic sucks going there!

[briansnat]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I have been on popular lakes on a lot of sat and sundays and have been the only boat. Have also been out when its crowded. I feel your pain when its crowded but are ya really going to stop fishing NJ because NY PA are sooo much better??

At Round Valley on Friday while riding to my campsite I did not see another boat on the reservoir. Granted T-storms were in the immediate forecast, but I saw only one empty trailer in the parking lot. Probably another camper.

Over the holiday weekend I didn't see many fishing boats, maybe 5-6 each day. On the Monday holiday I saw only one other boat out there fishing. The rest appeared to be rec kayakers and canoers.

I've been on Monksville on nice weekend days and rarely see more than half a dozen boats out fishing at a time. Rec kayakers, SUPs and canoes up the wazoo though.

[Jigman13]

Sandy Hook was a mad house this weekend with boats blasting through schools of albies screwing everything up. From now on I will only fish Montaulk.

Wait for the fall run off the Point out East lol... Same sh*t but with bigger boats and kayaks mixed in. Small CCs with fly guys darting all over the place, yakkers without flags in 6 ft rollers, 80+ft party boats, and hundreds of rec guys all jockeying for position to bail stripers, blues and false albies. It's a sh*t show...esp when the rain fish and herring roll it! And don't get too close the beach or point. You'll end up with a 3 oz bottle plug bouncing off your windshield or hull! Hahaha...

[15FOOTER]

Lol sounds like good times jigman..see what i did there ;) Wilson only 20 more days man!

[Eskimo]

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On another crowded lake on 10/12 another boater said it best 50'000 people all fishing on tupperware sized lakes. These fish must see 100 lures a week.

lol - sounds like Spruce Run in the summertime. Anglers stacked deep and piled high!
If you sit in one spot for a while, you'll see the same spot get fished every 15 minutes or so all day long.

As soon as one boat is done with a spot, he'll wander off and a few minutes later another boat will pull up to the same spot and fish it. It's like watching bees visiting a flower.

Can you imagine the bass sitting on that structure dodging spinnerbaits and hooked herring all day long?


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[bowzonly]

Not NY or Pa. I have friends out west. Its amazing I feel like I'm in heaven out there its gorgeous and all you have to do when hunting is go a mile from any road and you have miles and miles of land where you don't see another person.
In Nj four out of five hunts on public land are ruined by other hunters walking around at prime time.

[Eskimo]

Not NY or Pa. I have friends out west. Its amazing I feel like I'm in heaven out there its gorgeous and all you have to do when hunting is go a mile from any road and you have miles and miles of land where you don't see another person.
In Nj four out of five hunts on public land are ruined by other hunters walking around at prime time.


It's a different world when you cross over the state lines.

I remember inshore fishing this past winter in Florida and thinking to myself, "Where the hell is everyone?". There are clearly fish all over this place and I'm the only one with a rod. :D




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[Chrisper4694]

i think fishing in nj has to make you so much better than anglers fishing in other less populated places...it's like training for sports at high altitude haha

[acabtp]

i think fishing in nj has to make you so much better than anglers fishing in other less populated places...it's like training for sports at high altitude haha

that's how i look at it. plus how fun is it when you do pull up to a spot that was just fished and you start bailing them left and right?

[briansnat]

i think fishing in nj has to make you so much better than anglers fishing in other less populated places...it's like training for sports at high altitude haha


Japan has even worse conditions than NJ as far as fishing pressure. That's why some of the most productive, newer presentations came out of Japan. Drop shot, flick shake etc. and its why some of the major innovators in lures today have names like Yamamoto and Segawa along with Hook innovators such as Gamakatsu and Owner.

The fish are there. I've seen posts here of people fishing the Passaic for pike and swearing the river is fished out and others hoisting 30"+ pike.

Sometimes it is luck, sometimes it is presentation, sometimes its a intimate knowledge of the waters.

I just wish i had the secret.

[bowzonly]

I have caught fish right after a 30 k bass boat had just fished a spot and got nothing. The problem with the crowds is there is somebody right behind you watching your technique and so on and so forth so the next time you go that doesn't work either. People screaming and fighting over dead pheas and deer, people getting shot in the face while pheas hunting cause others don't follow the first rule of safety. Getting up at 430 only to have another hunter walk under my stand at prime time. Driving around just before dark and seeing one or two deer in the public land fields while just across the street there are 20 in someones back yard. I'm just about done.

[Chrisper4694]

Japan has even worse conditions than NJ as far as fishing pressure. That's why some of the most productive, newer presentations came out of Japan. Drop shot, flick shake etc. and its why some of the major innovators in lures today have names like Yamamoto and Segawa along with Hook innovators such as Gamakatsu and Owner.

The fish are there. I've seen posts here of people fishing the Passaic for pike and swearing the river is fished out and others hoisting 30"+ pike.

Sometimes it is luck, sometimes it is presentation, sometimes its a intimate knowledge of the waters.

I just wish i had the secret.

Just for the record off subject a little...I believe Yamamoto is actually a totally American company based in a western state somewhere with an almost completely Navajo Indian workforce haha...just saying!

[briansnat]

Just for the record off subject a little...I believe Yamamoto is actually a totally American company based in a western state somewhere with an almost completely Navajo Indian workforce haha...just saying!

Yamamoto was born in Hawaii, and his products are e manufactured in the US, but it was in Japan where his lures first took off.

[TheDreamCatchers]

Thats sucks, especially when a great spots like stone tavern and rising sun get overfished. I only went once and saw about 7 different species of fish all dead on the shoreline. I did manage a 17+ lmb though :mad: