Salmon river 9/19-9/20

[bigboy5522]

Made the trip up for two days. Fished right above town most of the time. Saturday morning had the most action . People were hooking up around us pretty often. My dad hooked 8 landed 3. I hooked two and landed one. The action slowed mid day. Next day was slower, moved around alittle but only hooked acouple each. Alot of people and hopefully it gets better soon.

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[birddog]

I was out on the lake Friday night, we only landed one but they were jumping all over like we were in a hatchery

[AndyS]

Wow !!!

[Dave B.]

Nice job for an early run up! It looks like at least 2 of the 3 kings are wild fish, the 2 on the right. Can't tell on the 1 beside the coho though. Did all 3 kings have their adipose? The past 5-10 years have seen a steady increase in the volume of natural reproduction in both kings and coho as well as browns and steelies. Now if they could just have better success with the LL atlantics...
BTW, I see you were fishing just above one of my personal fave areas. Nice piece of water there but it gets crowded as hell in another couple of weeks.

[Esox Luciano]

Great lookin pic dude, NICE CATCH!!

[dakota560]

Beautiful fish, especially the coho. Did you see any steel or brown trout caught? Great when the fish are still silver or just turning. When they're that fresh the energy they have is insane. Just read something about natural reproduction in the Salmon River for Kings. Numbers are pretty impressive, in the millions if I'm not mistaken. Good to see a fishery which has that size natural reproduction.

Great report and congratulations on your catch. Best part is you were with your dad on the river, some of the best memories you'll have in your lifetime!

[Mikey topaz]

Way to get em buddy beats whacking dem little perch on pompton buddy haha wtg!

[Chrisper4694]

That is awesome man! I haven't yet experienced this fishery, but hopefully this year!

[bigboy5522]

Nice job for an early run up! It looks like at least 2 of the 3 kings are wild fish, the 2 on the right. Can't tell on the 1 beside the coho though. Did all 3 kings have their adipose? The past 5-10 years have seen a steady increase in the volume of natural reproduction in both kings and coho as well as browns and steelies. Now if they could just have better success with the LL atlantics...
BTW, I see you were fishing just above one of my personal fave areas. Nice piece of water there but it gets crowded as hell in another couple of weeks.

Thanks Im not sure about the adipose.. I didnt check. It was already crowded first thing in the morning, barely found a spot. Cant imagine how it will be in acouple weeks.

[bigboy5522]

Beautiful fish, especially the coho. Did you see any steel or brown trout caught? Great when the fish are still silver or just turning. When they're that fresh the energy they have is insane. Just read something about natural reproduction in the Salmon River for Kings. Numbers are pretty impressive, in the millions if I'm not mistaken. Good to see a fishery which has that size natural reproduction.

Great report and congratulations on your catch. Best part is you were with your dad on the river, some of the best memories you'll have in your lifetime!

Thanks I heard of a 12lb brown caught just above me. Seen one steelhead landed and one hooked. Also one of the fish I hooked was silver not sure if it was a steel or coho.

[FASTEDDIE29]

Yesssssssssss! The Salmon will be running like mad soon, very soon. Good catch by you and your dad. Gotta love the power of these fish. It really can't be matched!!!:D

[Andrushkin33]

That's some sweet catches my friend.

Looking at the pictures the one all the way to the left (smallest one) seems to be a coho but what do I know.

Regardless waters are becoming alive and cant wait to get out again.

Fish on.

Andre

[Dave B.]

That's some sweet catches my friend.

Looking at the pictures the one all the way to the left (smallest one) seems to be a coho but what do I know.

Regardless waters are becoming alive and cant wait to get out again.

Fish on.

Andre

Good call on that one Andre. Definitely a hen coho. The dark interior of the mouth is the easiest clue, trout, including steelies, are snow white inside their mouths. Also the coho have that signature 'overbite'. There are other more subtle differences but those 2 can give you a fast, easy ID.

[NickN]

Dave B. I have a question for you. I was under the impression the Altmar hatchery stopped clipping fins on fish a number of years ago and started using microchips. Do you know if they are still clipping adipose?

[Dave B.]

Dave B. I have a question for you. I was under the impression the Altmar hatchery stopped clipping fins on fish a number of years ago and started using microchips. Do you know if they are still clipping adipose?

Actually I believe you're correct Nick. I'd forgotten they stopped the adipose clip after 2011 so any 2-3 y/o fish returning now would all have an intact adipose. Thanks for reminding me, it's gotten to the point where things begin to slip my mind more often.:rolleyes:

[Tony Cav]

Wild Kings on the Salmon? Steelhead yes, Kings........not so sure.

One thing for sure, if your one the river after a bit of rain in the next couple of weeks the fishing should be hot!! Thinking seriously about the second week in October....depends on the weather and the tuna bite!!!! It's been many years.

[dakota560]

Wild Kings on the Salmon? Steelhead yes, Kings........not so sure.

One thing for sure, if your one the river after a bit of rain in the next couple of weeks the fishing should be hot!! Thinking seriously about the second week in October....depends on the weather and the tuna bite!!!! It's been many years.

I think they've estimated 15% to 20% of the king salmon returning to the Salmon River are from natural reproduction. Doesn't surprise me one bit based on the amount of salmon on reds in the upper end of the river.

[Dave B.]

I think they've estimated 15% to 20% of the king salmon returning to the Salmon River are from natural reproduction. Doesn't surprise me one bit based on the amount of salmon on reds in the upper end of the river.

This is a few years old, I'm looking for some more recent data but this should help answer the question, from the NY DEC website...
" In 2012, preliminary results indicated that 56% of the Chinook salmon harvested in New York waters of Lake Ontario were wild. The proportion of wild Chinook salmon observed in most New York tributaries varied by fish age but was generally low (i.e., 5-20%), except in the Salmon River, where approximately 70% of angler-caught Chinook salmon were wild."

Found some newer data...

" Percentages of wild Chinook salmon in Lake Ontario varied by year class and age and
among regions from 2009-2014, but overall, wild Chinook were an important
component of the Lake Ontario fishery averaging 47% of the age 2 and 3 lake harvest."

[Tony Cav]

I learn something new everyday. Something about the idea of catching (or just the possibility) wild, stream born fish that is appealing. I new that a fair percentage of the steelhead were stream bred but did not know that the salmon had the right conditions to reproduce in the Salmon River. That is very cool. What about other fish there as in: Coho, Atlantics, resident trout?

Thanks for the info guys!!

[Dave B.]

Tony, I don't have the time just now to dig up the info you asked for. I'll try to locate it later. For now here are a couple of docs. you might find interesting.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/lorpt14.pdf
http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/lou2014hilights.pdf