Need to buy new 9.9

[Trevordog]

Hey guys, I apologize for double posting this (I put it in boating too), but there is no better source then the fresh water forum guys! Moderator feel free to delete it if you need to.

I having an older Envinrude 4-stroke 9.9 on my 16' deep V that has been acting up last few years and would like to replace it. My question is, which brand do you guys prefer, and 2-stroke or 4-stroke?

I generally use my boat for trolling at RV/Spruce run, so I need a 9.9. Also, I have a side console, so I need controls. Any recommendations on dealers?

Thanks......

[Jhunter1]

I like the etecs and have bought a bunch of stuff from pasch on 611 in easton pa. He is a great dealer and will do everything to help ypu. I believe you'll get a 7 year warranty.

[BCinerie]

I swear by the Tohatsu 4 strokes, and FYI all Mercury small outboards under 25/30 are tohatsu's ! There are some great deals out there! I know bass pro had short shaft 9.9 for,1700 this spring If you order online no,sales,tax also! Just myn2 cents! Stay far away from Coleman ! Junk and no service available

[jimmythegreek]

theres lots of deals around if you look. Depending on how old your boat is it may not be worth spending 2 thousand plus on a new engine. How bad is the engine on your boat now that you cant fix the issues instead of replacing it? You cant rly buy a 2stroke anymore unless you buy an etec, most remote 9.9's are over 3k w controls and cables, they are not interchangeable between motor brands for the most part. Theres lots of good deals on craigslist etc. if you need some help feel free to pm me. I would look into giving your motor some love before I swapped motors especially if you have a 4 stroke. they run forever and the only issues they have is with fuel, a simple carb kit and a tune-up makes them usually run like new

[Jhunter1]

I agree with jimmy, I would find a good mechanic and see what he says about putting money in the motor first. No sense spending a few k when you could spend around 500 and have a good motor for a while longer. Pasch is the only good mechanic I know if your willing to travel I know you will be happy with him but there are others around as well.

[Jersey Charlie]

Get in touch with PJ at Port Monmouth Marine. They will be able to repair it and better than that they are honest! portmonmouthmarine.com

[Trevordog]

I hear you guys about repairing rather then replacing, but it seems like I have done everything and it still runs like crap. Here is my problem. I can run it for about 30 minutes with no problem. As soon as back down on the throttle for something and then throttle up again, it will run for about a minute and then start to sputter like it is running out of gas, when I squeeze the primer it runs for about a minute and then sputters, pump primer and good for a minute and so on and so on......

I have done a carb kit, changed plugs, thermostat, impeller, fuel pump, oil pressure switch and still no change. Tried running with cap off and on fuel tank with no change.

Motor is a 99 Evinrude 4 stroke

Sorry to hijack the fresh water page, but you guys are awesome and got 5 quick responses here and none on boating page.

[huntcountypussbuck]

Had the same issue with my 2000 Evinrude 9.9 Omc usa made 4 stroke. It was the fuel pump. Symptoms are different as you can run for awhile without a prime of the bulb. I would go few mins and then prime to keep running. Did you rebuild the pump. Mine had a check valve keep falling out of position. I expoxied in the keeper and did a rebuild as well. Fixed it right up. New pump was no longer available for my model. Good luck what ever you do.

[Trevordog]

I replaced fuel pump with new one found on-line. I'm no mechanic, but it sure does seem like a fuel pump issue. Beginning to think I got a bum fuel pump.

Still leaning toward new or newer motor. Wife gave the blessing so might as well go for it before she changes her mind. T

[BCinerie]

New is always a good way to go! Some great deals out there ! Good luck and let us know what you get .

[Sako1]

You just got one response on the boating forum.....

[huntcountypussbuck]

If you have the money at this point you looks like you spent alot of coin trying to get back on the water. You could go new with warranty or buy used. Ive had some good luck on clist but you need to be careful and do your diligence if buying a used motor.

[Rickhem]

I hear you guys about repairing rather then replacing, but it seems like I have done everything and it still runs like crap. Here is my problem. I can run it for about 30 minutes with no problem. As soon as back down on the throttle for something and then throttle up again, it will run for about a minute and then start to sputter like it is running out of gas, when I squeeze the primer it runs for about a minute and then sputters, pump primer and good for a minute and so on and so on......

I have done a carb kit, changed plugs, thermostat, impeller, fuel pump, oil pressure switch and still no change. Tried running with cap off and on fuel tank with no change.

I had a similar problem with an old 6hp evinrude years ago. It would start easily after squeezing the fuel bulb, but sputter out in a short time. I could keep it going with constant squeezing though, even running out on the lake. My problem turned out being leaks in the fuel line between the gas can and the engine. It would run fine as long as I kept the fuel line full by squeezing the bulb, but if I stopped, it would suck air and stall.
Maybe try another fuel line.....borrow one if possible and cross that off the list first before spending the cash for a new engine.

[Sleeper-6]

I second check your fuel lines. Not only the one from the tank to the engine but the ones under the cowel. Also check the impulse hose to the pump. (if it has one) No pulse from the crankcase to the pump will cause the pump to not work properly.

I have has issues where old lines were breaking down internally. They looked OK on the outside but the inside was swelling and blocking off fuel flow. It showed nearly that exact problem. The engine would run great for 20 mins and then starve for fuel and die.

For $10 in fuel hose, it's worth a shot.

[jrock]

I got a 2000 9.9 mercury mariner four stroke, and the damn thing runs as smooth as any motor I've ever seen. Highly recommend this motor. I've used it for trolling on the big finger lakes, small ponds, medium lakes, passaic river, deleware river, it performs great!!!

[Super]

I just got a Suzuki 9.9 4 stroke. Moves my boat faster than my Evinrude 15hp ever did and doesn't use much gas. Very happy so far.

[jimmythegreek]

Not sure where you are located but Im 5 min away from Lake Hopatcong and I think I can diagnose this engine quickly. I agree with what has been said on fuel line, if the diaphram/pump are good and replaced and you have done all of the above I would isolate the issue w a portable tank and a known good fuel line and I would also ultrasonic clean the carbs and remove all internal parts. You would be amazed how many times a carb kit does not cure a carb ethanol problem due to residue in the passages. The new small 4strokes are just as problematic as your '99 is, they are NOT tolerant of dirty fuel or carbs like 2 strokes of the past, but as long as that is good they are excellent motors. I wouldnt own another 2 stroke unless its a DFI large HP engine, I dont even like working on them anymore lol

[Trevordog]

Thanks for all the advise guys, this is clearly the best forum/page out there!

I am going to replace the fuel lines and also try a new tank and hose before I do anything else. Jimmythegreek, thanks for the offer on the diagnosis, may take you up on that if the above doesn't work.

[flatcreek]

I've run only non ethonol hightest in all my small engines. Have done this for the last two years and it makes a big difference. One pull starts most all the time, lower smother idle and no worries about old gas. With the ethonol you never know what your getting a station owner could just put a garden hose it the storage tank for a little extra profit and the water would just be absorbed by the alcohol.:eek:

[Sako1]

So where can you buy non-ethanol fuel? Thanks

Dave

[Wilson]

So where can you buy non-ethanol fuel? Thanks

Dave
In NJ looks like no where to be found according to this website.
PA looks like your best bet if you really want some.
http://www.buyrealgas.com/Pennsylvania.html

[waynedane]

So where can you buy non-ethanol fuel? Thanks

Dave

I buy my non ethanol gas on airport rd Allentown PA. World of difference.

[UglyStick]

I agree with everyone that ethanol containing gas is problematic but you don't need to go to the length of searching out ethanol free gas in another state, just use Star Tron. Since I started adding a good dose of Star Tron to the gas I put in EVERYTHING, 100% of the time, except my daily drivers, I have never had a problem and all of my small engine equipment starts on the fist pull, even after sitting awhile. I do still recommend running all small engines / tanks out of fuel between seasons of use where applicable.

[flatcreek]

[QUOTE=UglyStick;413104]I agree with everyone that ethanol containing gas is problematic but you don't need to go to the length of searching out ethanol free gas in another state, just use Star Tron.[I/QUOTE]
Don't know why its not sold in jersey, probably another stupid jersey law. I'm lucky that I can pass by the station on airport road going to and from my shop in Whitehall. I've tried star tron to, just don't have the confidence I do in non ethanol hightest, especially when it's so easy for me to get.

[Rickhem]

Thanks for all the advise guys, this is clearly the best forum/page out there!

I am going to replace the fuel lines and also try a new tank and hose before I do anything else. Jimmythegreek, thanks for the offer on the diagnosis, may take you up on that if the above doesn't work.

Whatever you find to be the issue, and however you end up resolving the problem, please post it up. These posts end up being a resource for when people have similar issues, and reading what others suggest might be the problem, and then how you track yours down and resolve it, well, that's an important part of closing the loop, so-to-speak.
So whatever you find, please share that info.

[Rickhem]

Thanks for all the advise guys, this is clearly the best forum/page out there!

I am going to replace the fuel lines and also try a new tank and hose before I do anything else. Jimmythegreek, thanks for the offer on the diagnosis, may take you up on that if the above doesn't work.

Did you ever get to the bottom of this?
Ended up tqalking about a similar problem with a buddy this weekend and was wondering what you ended up doing.