Ethanol Question

[catsmeow]

Just had a guy take my snow blower for repairs. Talked about treating gas and ehtanol problems. He told me that one grade up from regular ( plus ) gasoline does not contain ethanol. Was wondering if thats true. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks... Walt

[catfishonthelake]

That's not necessarily true. I believe all gas station gas has ethanol regardless of the grade. I tried looking for gas stations that sell ethanol free gas and there was one in Avenel but it's gone or they don't sell etanol free gas anymore. I had "Plus" gasoline disintegrate my gas line in my auger in a year. I buy premix 2-stroke fuel at the hardware store that has no ethanol. It would cost a fortune to run your car on it, but paying $10 or $20 a winter for gas to save my carb and my fuel lines is a no brainer.

[Capt. Debbie]

One grade up is simply a mix of regular and hi octane. SO no that's wrong.

Must be sold as ethanol free fuel.

I use Stabil Alcohol in evry tank. Never had a problem... snow thrower, mower, OB, chain saw, etc.

Just had a guy take my snow blower for repairs. Talked about treating gas and ehtanol problems. He told me that one grade up from regular ( plus ) gasoline does not contain ethanol. Was wondering if thats true. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks... Walt

[Gerry Zagorski]

As mentioned above not true here in NJ..... I know of no place where you can buy non ethanol fuel on the road. The premium grades still contain Ethanol. Some marinas used to carry it but not sure even they do anymore.

I do however know that in PA there are some places that do sell non ethanol fuel but it's only theiir premium grade.

Ethanol sucks..... You get worse fuel mileage, it does not store well, can screw up your fuel system and the alchol tends to absorb water which is really a big issue for boats.

Like Frank said... Best to use products like Stabil, especially if you know the fuel is going to be sitting for long peridos of time.... The other thing you can do with mowers, blowers, weed whackers etc is to drain the tank and run them dry before storing.

There is also a movement to increase the Ethanol % from 10 to 15... That will not only make matters worse.

[waynedane]

Non ethanol regular 87 airport rd allentown pa... About .30 more than reg.

[BCinerie]

In Ohio west of Cleveland has a few "boat" gas pumps. It usually 1 pump in back or off the the side. Runs a buck per gallon more (89) octane. My station runs it seasonally, may-October. Kinda stinks because I get stuck using the ethanol crap during duck season!!! I try to fill everything I got up before it goes away but never enough. I do notice the non ethanol runs smoother all summer!!

[shrimpman steve]

I have a 2004 merc. Are these "newer" motors just as susceptible to ethonal? I use stable every other fill up, but that is still once a week.

[Foul Hook]

My neighbor is a landscaper with many small engine pieces of equipment , his repair guy told him to run super in all of his machines. Since switching he says there have been less repair issues on the equipment. also as mention stabil for winter storage in all motors

[Capt. Lou]

My buddies OB is older Yamaha , we intend to use Startron product to cut Ethnol issues nayone use this product in their OB ? OK if u did ?:cool:

[Bass_Appeal]

I use stabil marine , and havent used my boat much this year due to problems but upon checking my tank doesnt look like any water build up in the tank. Used my 16 inch pick up tube that goes to bottom of tank to hand siphon some fuel out let settlen in cup no water !

[ScowardNJ]

I heard aviation fuel is non ethanol if you can get it. Good luck towing your rig to Newark Liberty but maybe some of the smaller airports around would pump it for you.

[Capt. Lou]

My buddies OB is older Yamaha , we intend to use Startron product to cut Ethnol issues nayone use this product in their OB ? OK if u did ?:cool:
FYI
Got some answers concerning Startron product from independant users etc. it seems some belive this product is one of the better choices to prevent fuel separation by far ! Also lends itself to claeaning carbs, injectors as well.
Apparently from what I gleened from these sources their r a couple of other decent products that prevent this but not as fast as Startron, odly enough stabil stablizes but does not totally prevent this occurance so most not the best to prevent above.:cool::cool:

[flatcreek]

Tried a tank of non Etanol in my pickup and it did seam.to run as well as regular from wawa and it didn't get any better milage. I check my milage.on every tank and take I to consideration the variables. Can anyone explained why this would be. I could also feel the truck wasn't runing as well.

[Gerry Zagorski]

This from a automotive website

These days more than 95 percent of gas sold is E10, said AAA spokesman Michael Green. E10 is 10 percent ethanol and came into use after amendments in 1990 to the Clean Air Act, according to the Department of Energy. All cars are certified to run the stuff; in fact, it's difficult to find ethanol-free gas anymore.

Yet the more efficient ethanol-free blend is what the EPA uses to produce gas mileage figures posted on that new-car sticker.

And there's the problem. Ethanol's lower energy density leads to worse gas mileage, which is why using E85 (85 percent ethanol) in cars that accommodate it is usually a bad idea. The math carries to E10, which has up to 10 percent ethanol. A gallon of E10 has 96.7 percent of the energy in one gallon of gasoline, according to the DOE's Alternative Fuels Data Center.

That means E10 fractionally lowers real-world gas mileage. How much? Try about 3 percent, said Toyota Senior Energy Researcher Mike McCarthy and Ford powertrain spokesman Paul Seredynski. AAA's Green and the EPA both pegged the E10 loss between 3 and 4 percent. That means a car that sports a 30 mpg EPA combined figure is already hampered from achieving that number. The starting line is really 29 mpg.

[deyankeeclipper]

General rule with ethanol gas. Tank full or tank empty. Not in between.
When it comes to mowers and small equiptment drain if gonna sit a few months. Ethanol will varnish your carbs and deteriorate your hoses.

[Capt. Debbie]

That's rediculous. One grade up is a mix of regular gas and hi octane gas inside the pump.


Just had a guy take my snow blower for repairs. Talked about treating gas and ehtanol problems. He told me that one grade up from regular ( plus ) gasoline does not contain ethanol. Was wondering if thats true. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks... Walt

[Anthony]

General rule with ethanol gas. Tank full or tank empty. Not in between.
When it comes to mowers and small equiptment drain if gonna sit a few months. Ethanol will varnish your carbs and deteriorate your hoses.

Correct, we lost power these last two days....my generator has been sitting since sandy with a full tank of gas...but before I stored it I ran carb dry and a few squirts of starting fluid in carb and ran it for a few seconds....it started first pull.

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