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AndyS
05-27-2014, 11:58 AM
I wonder why the State scratched this lake off the list for trout ? It got to the point an independent group was going to pay for brown trout on their own and stock them with the States permission. Lake Musconetcong gets trout though :confused:

Jigman13
05-27-2014, 11:59 AM
Nice fish and nice hat! Go RANGERS!

Eskimo
05-27-2014, 01:15 PM
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That's a beautiful trout.

I remember reading in Manny Luftglass's book Gone Fishin' in Spruce Run Reservoir when they stocked trout, a few Brown Trout manged to tough out the summer by finding natural springs within the reservoir.

(or something to that effect. This is going back like 20 years. The book is in desperate need of an upgrade.)

I hope the state conducts some studies in the future to test the viability of Brown Trout in Spruce Run. Judging from what I have seen of the reservoir in the summer, I would think a hold-over trout fishery would be unlikely.


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Big Steve
05-27-2014, 01:45 PM
A real beauty. :p:p

bigfishy
05-27-2014, 07:19 PM
Unlikely yes!!! imposible, no

flatcreek
05-27-2014, 07:35 PM
If you guys remember Tom and I picked up two last year in our early guest for stripes about this time of year and then none for the rest of the year. The water is still only in the mid sixties, when it gets a little warmer I think they go into hiding.

NorthJerzyG
05-27-2014, 08:43 PM
Nice fish and nice hat! Go RANGERS!

Beat me too it, lol. :p LETS GO RANGERS!!

Dave B.
05-28-2014, 01:22 AM
Spruce Run Res was once a haven for big holdover and wild browns but that situation hasn't existed for several decades now. There are still wild browns and to a far lesser extent wild brooks in both Spruce Run Creek and Mulhockaway as well as Black Brook, all tribs to the res. In fact back in the 60's and 70's, well before our current Wild Trout Stream program there were only 2 designated 'Natural Trout Fishing' waters in NJ, both of which had at the time very good self sustaining wild populations. One of those was Van Campens Brook, the other was Mulhockaway Creek. Mulhockaway was far and away primarily wild browns, but by the late 70's development in the watershed had diminished the water quality to a point that the wild pops were dwindling rapidly so it was removed from the designation and placed on the stocking rosters.

Despite that the wild browns still hang on to this day, albeit in far smaller numbers. As well there were still very good holdover pops in the res and it wasn't that uncommon to encounter wild and/or long-term holdover browns of often quite impressive size making fall spawning runs up the creek. This still happens from time to time but it is very infrequent these days.

As development progressed in the lower Raritan basin we began to see more frequent and excessive drawdowns of the reservoir. Remember, this is first and foremost a water supply reservoir owned and operated by the NJ Water Supply Authority. When water is needed to maintain an established minimum flow level in the Raritan mainstem Spruce Run Res is the first to be utilized, before Round Valley. For many years the res would be drawn down to a mere 20 foot remaining depth. At this level the remaining water was clearly very small but more importantly the water temps clear to the bottom were far above the survival level for trout. In those years where it still had up to 40-50 foot depths despite having a deeper level that had suitable temps, those levels had inadequate dissolved oxygen to support life.

Eventually an agreement was reached between the water supply authority and NJF&W to not draw it below a certain level in order to maintain the warm and coolwater species present. (bass, pike, 'wiper's, etc) However even this new minimum level doesn't really protect the trout much. Their only haven at those times are the few small areas where both temp and dissolved O2 levels are adequate for survival. As such there is some very limited holdover.

As for developing a big holdover brown fishery there, unfortunately unless there's a huge change in how the res levels are managed it will never happen. Frankly I don't see any prospect of the res storage criteria being changed for the better in this regard in our lifetime. If anything it may well change for the worse as development continues in the watershed.

As for dropping the lake from the stocking list, many of the temp and oxygen factors along with the causal drawdowns I already mentioned played a big role in this decision. Another factor was the amount of angler return vs. stocking numbers, which was very small according to on-the-water creel surveys. These factors along with a few others were the basis for the decision.

One other tale surrounding Spruce Run Creek and the res you might want to look into for some insight into why/how an abundant, naturally reproducing population of trout will never be able to be established there is the story of Spruce Run Creek, the Donaldson rainbows and Rotenone. A failed experiment that fortunately didn't totally annihilate the wild brooks and browns in the creek thankfully.

Finally, my apologies to all for the long-winded post. Hope I didn't bore everyone to death.

Njmat567
05-28-2014, 02:00 AM
I love the way those lake brownies look... Awsome!!

Eskimo
05-28-2014, 07:57 AM
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Dave B., thanks for that information.

The development in the watershed area is absurd. I quick look at the reservoir area in Google Earth reveals the ridiculous amount of suburban sprawl. I couldn't believe when they built high-density town houses almost up to the edge of the water.



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Capt. Lou
05-28-2014, 08:37 AM
The most exciting trout fishery in my opinion was the failed Donaldson bow experiment . There was a couple of years in early sixties that a winter run would occur . Not huge fish but many in. 15 to 18" class.
Once this went away the trout fishery barely existed & warm water fishery took over to this day.
I believe several of state pike records came out of their in the early years . Good bass fishing for awhile as well , but never a trout go to spot for me !
Once RV filled this became the trout fishery for many.
In those days GL & LH were also decent big trout producers .

AndyS
05-28-2014, 10:07 AM
But yet they throw trout in every scum hole duck pond from High Point to Cape May but not Spruce Run, just sayin'.

Capt. Lou
05-28-2014, 10:39 AM
Andy nothing to do with Spruce Run per se , just a lot to do with selling licenses!
Access is primarily boat type fishery where many fisherman will not fish from shore.
So to get the biggest bang for the license dollar a smaller body of marginal water gets the fish !
It's hurts me as well since I love to pursue streamwise outsize trout!
Covered many miles this spring to get two over. 5#'s , one NJ & one PA my home waters.ii

Super
05-28-2014, 12:32 PM
They stock channel cats, pike, and wipers in Spruce Run. Those fish are better suited for that water. Back when they stocked 1,200 trout in that lake, it still wasn't a great trout fishery.

BTW, nice fish.

jimmythegreek
05-28-2014, 12:37 PM
I havent spent alot of time on SR, just been there once in July, but the thermocline in the reservoir was NUTS, I have never seen anything like it anywhere else. between 8-10 feet down was was the heaviest band I ever saw on my sonar. Below that just nothing, empty water with no O2 for the feesh, IDK how the trout would holdover, Im sure theres a few spots w some springs they can hang onto, but how would they get food down there in the form of shiners/herring? Id guess they could eat the crustations on the bottom like others do but how many can hold over?

AndyS
05-28-2014, 12:50 PM
They stock trout in some duck pond in Edison, do the trout hold over in there, just sayin'.

bubbasdad
05-29-2014, 08:33 PM
They stock trout in some duck pond in Edison, do the trout hold over in there, just sayin'.

Hey! Thats my home water!
just kidding....personally think its a bit of a waste to through them in there, too, especially in the state that lake is currently in...

420*NightCrawler
06-01-2014, 10:44 PM
I wonder why the State scratched this lake off the list for trout ? It got to the point an independent group was going to pay for brown trout on their own and stock them with the States permission. Lake Musconetcong gets trout though :confused:

Really, man? I'm all proud of my brown trout I picked up in LH fishing from the dock yesterday, and you go and post that beast? Just kidding, well done :D. It looks like you got about 6" on the trout I caught.:mad:

crewchief2
06-02-2014, 11:58 AM
Nice.... And here we go Rangers, here we go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!