another carp pic

[NJ219bands]

I caught 19 carp the past 5 days from the same spot with my homemade corn meal bait. Largest was 15 lbs.

[dogfish246]

Mind sharing your recipe? None of the ones I have tried so far have worked and some dont stay on the hook too well.

[AndyS]

I thought carp meat was white and flakey, like chicken. Is that a Mitchell 300 reel ? Nice carp.

[Eskimo]

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Nice carp NJ219bands.



I thought carp meat was white and flakey, like chicken. Is that a Mitchell 300 reel ? Nice carp.


No, it's darker than that, but with a strange texture and booby-trapped with barbed bones.

http://www.hollowtop.com/journals/journalpics/Carp_Hunting.12.Fillet.jpg

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[NJ219bands]

Mind sharing your recipe? None of the ones I have tried so far have worked and some dont stay on the hook too well.

One recipe that will stay on the hook is to mix a cup of yellow corn meal with a cup of flour and some vanilla and water. After you make a big dough ball, put quarter size dough balls in boiling water for 3 minutes and you are good to go.

[NJ219bands]

I thought carp meat was white and flakey, like chicken. Is that a Mitchell 300 reel ? Nice carp.

I bought 2 old Mitchell #300 reels on the Internet last year. I use them with my old 7' Shakespeare Ugly Stick for carping.

[catfishonthelake]

I caught 19 carp the past 5 days from the same spot with my homemade corn meal bait. Largest was 15 lbs.

I'm assuming that's 19 more carp that were killed so they wouldn't smarten up, run you into snags the next time and cost you any 10 cent hooks?

[saxmatt]

If anyone is interested in catch and release carp fishing make sure you hold them with both hands underneath the stomach. Don't hold them by the gill plate or by the mouth with a lip gripper. There is soft tissue all around the mouth and gills that will rip because of the weight if you hold them like that. I know this guy kills all the carp he catches so I guess the fish was going to die anyway in this case, but this is a terrible example of how to hold a carp.

[dogfish246]

One recipe that will stay on the hook is to mix a cup of yellow corn meal with a cup of flour and some vanilla and water. After you make a big dough ball, put quarter size dough balls in boiling water for 3 minutes and you are good to go.

Thanks!

[hartattack]

I bought 2 old Mitchell #300 reels on the Internet last year. I use them with my old 7' Shakespeare Ugly Stick for carping.

That's a Mitchell GARCIA 300 - named after your lookalike brother JERRY :)

[NJ219bands]

I'm assuming that's 19 more carp that were killed so they wouldn't smarten up, run you into snags the next time and cost you any 10 cent hooks?
That's correct. Check out the "bowfishing" section of //www.newjerseyhunter.com. There's 4 bowfishermen that kill 100 carp a night in the Delaware River. The first carp that I hooked this year stole my hook in a snag. Then I landed the next 26. Last year I only caught 1 carp in the Delaware River. The bowfishermen killed 1000s. Government fish agencies killed millions of carp in the USA. Releasing invasive species doesn't make sense.

[saxmatt]

Common carp are not listed as an invasive species in NJ. They are a non native introduced species, just like largemouth bass and brown trout. Do you kill all the bass and trout you catch because they are invasive?

[Predator]

A Tommy Chong exacter

[catfishonthelake]

That's correct. Check out the "bowfishing" section of //www.newjerseyhunter.com. There's 4 bowfishermen that kill 100 carp a night in the Delaware River. The first carp that I hooked this year stole my hook in a snag. Then I landed the next 26. Last year I only caught 1 carp in the Delaware River. The bowfishermen killed 1000s. Government fish agencies killed millions of carp in the USA. Releasing invasive species doesn't make sense.

I don't agree with what the bowfishermen do any more than what you do. It's wasteful. You are a horrible example for future generations. If everybody were like you, there wouldn't be any fish left.

[NJ219bands]

I don't agree with what the bowfishermen do any more than what you do. It's wasteful. You are a horrible example for future generations. If everybody were like you, there wouldn't be any fish left.

Carp are the only fish that I keep because they are a non native invasive species that were not stocked in NJ in more than 100 years and I know people that like to eat them. I usually catch and release more than 3,000 fish in NJ each year. I tagged more than 7,600 fish in NJ since 1985 and 237 were recaptured in 11 different states. There is a carp specific disease that kills them. I saw 3 carp kills in the Delaware River and Millstone River. It better that I catch and give carp to people that like to eat them instead of releasing them to die from disease, hypoxia, arrow, etc.

[HK1490]

Where can I catch carp I love the flight. I tried Raritan canal By Bound brook No luck. Thanks

[bigfishy]

Where are there carp?? The question should be where aren't there any carp? that list would be MUCH smaller...
Seriously though, others here should be able to help...I don't fish for them

[catfishonthelake]

Where can I catch carp I love the flight. I tried Raritan canal By Bound brook No luck. Thanks

Be persistent. Use lots of chum and bait. Once you start to figure them out, you'll catch them consistently.

[HK1490]

Where are there carp?? The question should be where aren't there any carp? that list would be MUCH smaller...
Seriously though, others here should be able to help...I don't fish for them

Thank you.

[Delawareriver]

I don't agree with what the bowfishermen do any more than what you do. It's wasteful. You are a horrible example for future generations. If everybody were like you, there wouldn't be any fish left.
Trust me with a single female carp being able to lay 125,000- 250,000 eggs in a single spawn there will always be carp around to catch/shoot. There is hundreds of thousands in nj alone.

Matt it's not so much of an invasive species issue as it is carp destroy ecosystems. Been scientifically proven in multiple studies the negative affects they have. I don't blame anyone for enjoying fishing for carp as they get larger and are easier to catch then any other species in new jersey. No other species you can catch multiple 20 lbers on any given trip plus good chances at 30 lbers and 40 lbers are caught every year. But i find it to easy. Have used the euro carping techniques and fly fished for them but pretty easy to figure out as long you don't spook them

[acabtp]

How long until the mulberries are ripe??

[Eskimo]

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How long until the mulberries are ripe??


Figure mid-June is the peak, but things are probably going to run late this year.




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[catfishonthelake]

Trust me with a single female carp being able to lay 125,000- 250,000 eggs in a single spawn there will always be carp around to catch/shoot. There is hundreds of thousands in nj alone.

Matt it's not so much of an invasive species issue as it is carp destroy ecosystems. Been scientifically proven in multiple studies the negative affects they have. I don't blame anyone for enjoying fishing for carp as they get larger and are easier to catch then any other species in new jersey. No other species you can catch multiple 20 lbers on any given trip plus good chances at 30 lbers and 40 lbers are caught every year. But i find it to easy. Have used the euro carping techniques and fly fished for them but pretty easy to figure out as long you don't spook them

I think the NJDEP does a wonderful job of managing our fisheries, so I tend to leave that to them. When they start advocating a carp kill like they've done with the true invasive species like flatheads, then maybe I'll think twice about releasing them. Killing hundreds if not thousands of fish under the guise of bettering our ecosystems is just a bunch of BS in my book. Killing fish just to give them to farmers and anyone else who will take them really isn't in the spirit of what I consider sportsmanship. Congrats on the big carp you shot. I've seen a dozen bigger carp caught in this state that were released, and half the people on this board know there are bigger carp that have been landed than your "record." To me that is much more of an accomplishment than having a piece of paper, your name in the compendium and a picture of a dead fish.

[Delawareriver]

I think the NJDEP does a wonderful job of managing our fisheries, so I tend to leave that to them. When they start advocating a carp kill like they've done with the true invasive species like flatheads, then maybe I'll think twice about releasing them. Killing hundreds if not thousands of fish under the guise of bettering our ecosystems is just a bunch of BS in my book. Killing fish just to give them to farmers and anyone else who will take them really isn't in the spirit of what I consider sportsmanship. Congrats on the big carp you shot. I've seen a dozen bigger carp caught in this state that were released, and half the people on this board know there are bigger carp that have been landed than your "record." To me that is much more of an accomplishment than having a piece of paper, your name in the compendium and a picture of a dead fish.

I know there is larger also, I do let the njdep managing their fishery they advocate the sport of bowfishing and give us legal rights to be able to enjoy the sport. Yeah they have done a great job stopping the spread of Flatheads and snakeheads. As you mention they are definitely invasive but they both have their own anglers that cry about the harvest yet both species are becoming common occurrence throughout the Delaware river water shed. You can call it guise I just call it science, you should look up some of the research before you pass judgement. you do not have to agree with what we do but it is completely legal. http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae342/delawareriver/attachment-1.jpg (http://s986.photobucket.com/user/delawareriver/media/attachment-1.jpg.html)

[Delawareriver]

http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2009/digfsh32-39.pdf

F&W promoting the sport

[catfishonthelake]

I know there is larger also, I do let the njdep managing their fishery they advocate the sport of bowfishing and give us legal rights to be able to enjoy the sport. Yeah they have done a great job stopping the spread of Flatheads and snakeheads. As you mention they are definitely invasive but they both have their own anglers that cry about the harvest yet both species are becoming common occurrence throughout the Delaware river water shed. You can call it guise I just call it science, you should look up some of the research before you pass judgement. you do not have to agree with what we do but it is completely legal. http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae342/delawareriver/attachment-1.jpg (http://s986.photobucket.com/user/delawareriver/media/attachment-1.jpg.html)

I saw the picture the first time you posted it and I am aware that you have the legal right to bow hunt. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. All my friends that hunt deer, turkey etc. practice some of the best sportsmanship I know. They eat and use every part of the animal they kill that they can. It just seems wasteful to me to kill thousands of fish that you have no personal use for, regardless of how much research you throw out that they're destructive. I'm a musky fisherman and release everything I catch. When I see someone with a big fish in their cooler it bothers me, but it is their legal right to take it as long as it not on one of "Catch and Release" lakes in April and May. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

[jrock]

Hey mark I have to agree with you killing fish and just leaving them there just seems unethical to me also. Now to each his or her own as long as its legal but sometimes we dont have to look into the law to make an ethical decision and I think this is one of those moments.For example I have become pretty good at getting the walleye out of greenwood lake along with my pops and my buddy. We can legally go out and take 9 walleye out of there everyday I go out along with guys like fast eddie and skunkcity who can also do the same. But what do we do?? we take one a piece sometimes and none most other times because we just dont need that much meat even though legally we would be doing nothing wrong. That being said for the most part most anglers I have met especially from this site seem to be spot on with their morals and ethics when it comes to fishing and respecting the environment. And remember no matter what anyone feels about what someone is doing out there if its 100 percent legal we must accept it. Oh and I come from macedonia where we have a huge lake with the cleanest fresh water I have ever seen in my life, you can see almost 100 feet down to the bottom and guess what species is abundant there??? thats right the carp. So there is examples of dirty waters with carp residing there and clean waters with carp residing in them also.....

[HK1490]

Be persistent. Use lots of chum and bait. Once you start to figure them out, you'll catch them consistently.

Thanks!!!

[Delawareriver]

I saw the picture the first time you posted it and I am aware that you have the legal right to bow hunt. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. All my friends that hunt deer, turkey etc. practice some of the best sportsmanship I know. They eat and use every part of the animal they kill that they can. It just seems wasteful to me to kill thousands of fish that you have no personal use for, regardless of how much research you throw out that they're destructive. I'm a musky fisherman and release everything I catch. When I see someone with a big fish in their cooler it bothers me, but it is their legal right to take it as long as it not on one of "Catch and Release" lakes in April and May. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

So even tho I find a use for the carp just because I personally don't use them makes it unethical. Let me ask you do any of your hunting friends ever shoot coyotes, ground hogs, or crows? I know thousands of guys across this state that would shoot a coyote while hunting, what do you think happens to them? They get gutted and sliced up for dinner? Sometimes pests need to be controlled. I also musky fish and release every musky I catch and I agree I don't agree when I see a large one kept but I congratulate the guy. I don't pick a fight with him over it. That's his legal right.

Jrock- I'm glad you only keep so many walleyes, I applaud you and I would do the same thing. I release a lot of big stripers each year. Keep one or two 30"-34" fish and I know that's all I need. I also release all my bass muskies, pike, walleyes (outside of icefishing) But we are not talking about a game fish we are talking about carp. Yes there is many factors in each lake how bad the carp affect the lake. Deep clear lakes with little to no sediment on the bottom obviously can't be turned to a mud pit where shallow lakes with mud bottoms are a different story. Don't forget how clear the water is does not tell you how healthy the lake is.
Don't take my word for it tho, take a few minutes and read up on the common carp


http://fwcb.cfans.umn.edu/courses/nresexotics3002/GradPages/Common_carp/damage.html
http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/factsheet.aspx?speciesID=4
Two good ones to start. Hard to pick put the best ones when a Google search comes up with hundreds of page citing carp destructive nature

[jrock]

In no way am I implying that you have no regard for any animal life but you can find negative articles about carp and you can also find positive articles about how they effect the ecosystem also...... for example the fact that they have so many offspring provides forage for game fish, the natural cycle isn't always as simple as some books explain. Some people underestimate mother nature and its ability to adapt and figure out changes in the ecosystem....... Mother nature has been doing it for millions of years I can trust her to figure out how to handle a carp. It was once stated in a previous thread that we have many invasive species like the brown trout in this state, and picking and choosing which one to eliminate by highlighting their negatives just because of your personal preference is in my opinion not right. Again if some one legally takes or shots a fish and decides to take it home and dump it in their garbage can, it is not my place to change that persons mind, as my opinion and only an opinion I don't regard one fish species lesser than another because one is a game fish and the other is not. I treat them equally as far as respecting them as one of gods creatures that's all.

[jrock]

And again I would like to highlight that if someone is taking game in a legal manor it is not my place to tell anyone else how to legally take game. This is strictly my opinion, no disrespect is intended.

[catfishonthelake]

So even tho I find a use for the carp just because I personally don't use them makes it unethical. Let me ask you do any of your hunting friends ever shoot coyotes, ground hogs, or crows? I know thousands of guys across this state that would shoot a coyote while hunting, what do you think happens to them? They get gutted and sliced up for dinner? Sometimes pests need to be controlled. I also musky fish and release every musky I catch and I agree I don't agree when I see a large one kept but I congratulate the guy. I don't pick a fight with him over it. That's his legal right.


http://fwcb.cfans.umn.edu/courses/nresexotics3002/GradPages/Common_carp/damage.html
http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/factsheet.aspx?speciesID=4
Two good ones to start. Hard to pick put the best ones when a Google search comes up with hundreds of page citing carp destructive nature

Actually, my hunting friends do not shoot coyotes, ground hogs or crows and I wasn't aware that was something people did until you wrote this. And I don't pick a fight with anyone killing a musky, I just don't agree with it. Just as I don't agree with people killing thousands of fish that they have no personal use for. If you have to "find a use" for what you kill, it doesn't really seem necessary to kill them in the first place, regardless of how much you tout research that they're destructive.

And I agree with Jrock completely. Just because people can do things legally doesn't remove the responsibility that we all have as sportsmen to protect our resources. Take what you can use and leave the rest.

And once again, as stated my Jrock, this is just my opinion. If people do things legally well than that's their right. I'm not going to exercise my right to take my limit of musky or carp today or any other day for that matter, but you are free to do so. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I'm not going to change your mind just as you are not going to change mine. Have a good day everyone. I'm going fishing.

[zhitoman]

If you want to catch carp to eat it, that's cool. But to kill to make in a fertilizer is just wrong! I am originally from Eastern Europe, and carp is a sacred fish over there. I personally like eating carp, if it's cooked right, and I only fish for carp if I am going to eat it, which happens maybe once a year.

[jmurr711]

Trust me with a single female carp being able to lay 125,000- 250,000 eggs in a single spawn there will always be carp around to catch/shoot. There is hundreds of thousands in nj alone.

Matt it's not so much of an invasive species issue as it is carp destroy ecosystems. Been scientifically proven in multiple studies the negative affects they have. I don't blame anyone for enjoying fishing for carp as they get larger and are easier to catch then any other species in new jersey. No other species you can catch multiple 20 lbers on any given trip plus good chances at 30 lbers and 40 lbers are caught every year. But i find it to easy. Have used the euro carping techniques and fly fished for them but pretty easy to figure out as long you don't spook them

for real? i agree they do get alrger but they are way more challenging then alot of fish that people consider gamefish

[Delawareriver]

for real? i agree they do get alrger but they are way more challenging then alot of fish that people consider gamefish

How do you figure more challenging? Throw some corn on a hook and chum them in or if you want to get technical tie up a few hair rigs and make up some dough balls or bollies and once again chum them in. Even fly fishing 90% of them take a pink egg pattern off the bottom the hardest part is casting in front of them

[jmurr711]

they are way more selective then you give em credit for man i have watched em play with a bait for 20 minutes, i have even watched em eat every piece of chum except the hook bait. i guess bass or stocked trout are much tougher to catch right?

[Delawareriver]

they are w ay more selective then you give em credit for man i have watched em play with a bait for 20 minutes, i have even watched em eat every piece of chum except the hook bait. i guess bass or stocked trout are much tougher to catch right?
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Maybe you gotta change up your dough recipe or try a different hair rig.
Wouldn't say any of those fish would be considered tough to catch on the average day. Certain weather/ Water conditions can make it more difficult

[jmurr711]

don't do hair i prefer things shaven :)

[Delawareriver]

don't do hair i prefer things shaven :)

Well we can agree on that haha

[Mark B.]

Just received a call from an angler who C & R’ed a 56 lb. Raritan River (didn’t say where) carp.

Would have been a new state record, if weighed on a certified scale, but he didn’t want to kill it.

Saxmatt did the same thing last year.

[Delawareriver]

Just received a call from an angler who C & R’ed a 56 lb. Raritan River (didn’t say where) carp.

Would have been a new state record, if weighed on a certified scale, but he didn’t want to kill it.

Saxmatt did the same thing last year. Sure is some monsters around. Now is the time before they drop their eggs

Matt is a heck of a fisherman. Sure puts his time in. I have musky fished with him a few times on the ice and always a pleasure to talk with