wild goldfish

[zhitoman]

Anywhere in New Jersey? I am not talking about some little city ponds, not really interested in those. These fish when they grow to 2-3 lbs are fun to catch and pretty good to eat.

[gwl2oneida]

Eating goldfish? You're kidding right?

[frugalfisherman]

Delisious

[Skunk City]

Delisious

LOL!

I've seen them in a small stream in Nutley, but I believe they were probably dumped there by somebody.

[kcritch]

Ok I know fishing can be tough...but Gold Fish fishing? That's making things a little too challenging for me....I have enough trouble catching fish that actually exist in Jersey!

[Lard Almighty]

Tropiquarium
1100 Route 35
Ocean Township, NJ 07712
Ocean Plaza‎
(732) 922-2300
tropiquarium.com‎

:p

[Captain Rich]

jmurr might have some competition here !!!!

[Eskimo]

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Not my picture, but funny none the less:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qcO78VKIRX8/TJ6RTlv65_I/AAAAAAAAFBQ/ZvEMm3Ao2Aw/s1600/trout+fishing+031.JPG

[NJ219bands]

I caught feral goldfish to 9 lb in the Delaware River. I also caught and removed hundreds of feral goldfish from Robert G. Martin Lake. I reported some of my catches to the Nonindigenous Aquatic Species Program at http://NAS.ER.USGS.GOV. I'll try to post a pic.

[zhitoman]

I am not kidding. Goldfish also known as crucian carp, is a prime food fish in Europe and Asia.

[saxmatt]

Crusians were brought over from Europe with common carp and mirror carp well over 100 years ago. In a lot of places they've been around longer than largemouth bass, brown trout, and rainbow trout. I've caught a lot of them all around NJ, lots of them in the Rahway River and ponds around it. They look a lot like common carp, the best way to tell the difference is common carp have barbels and crucians don't. Predators like to eat them too ;)

http://www.farnhamanglingsociety.com/assets/images-species/stockbridge_pond_34_scale_lateral_line_crucian_car p_400.jpg

[acabtp]

I am not kidding. Goldfish also known as crucian carp, is a prime food fish in Europe and Asia.
no; different species

[zhitoman]

Technically they are different species, originally therm crucian carp was applied to gold crucian carp. In Europe there are two species of crucian carp, gold crucian carp and asian silver crucian carp. Goldfish are domesticated silver crucian carp. The thing is, those fish hybridize so much, it's not really possible to tell which one is a pure crucian now. You can trust me, I caught both species.

[zhitoman]

Crusians were brought over from Europe with common carp and mirror carp well over 100 years ago. In a lot of places they've been around longer than largemouth bass, brown trout, and rainbow trout. I've caught a lot of them all around NJ, lots of them in the Rahway River and ponds around it. They look a lot like common carp, the best way to tell the difference is common carp have barbels and crucians don't. Predators like to eat them too ;)

Please tell us more!!!

[acabtp]

Goldfish are domesticated silver crucian carp
according to a couple articles linked from the wiki, it seems that the evidence points more towards the prussian carp these days?
Goldfish were bred from Prussian carp (Carassius auratus gibelio) in China, and they remain the closest wild relative of the goldfish. Previously, some sources claimed the Crucian carp (Carassius carassius) as the wild version of the goldfish. However, they are differentiated by several characteristics. C. auratus have a more pointed snout while the snout of a C. carassius is well rounded. C. gibelio often has a grey/greenish color, while crucian carps are always golden bronze. Juvenile crucian carp have a black spot on the base of the tail which disappears with age. In C. auratus this tail spot is never present. C. auratus have fewer than 31 scales along the lateral line while crucian carp have 33 scales or more.
they do look more like prussian carp than crucian carp

[saxmatt]

I've caught prussian carp too but only a couple of them, crucians are a lot more common in NJ. There are also a lot of koi in NJ and they can get gigantic. There are a few other species too and like zhitoman said members of the carp family can hybridize. Lots of cool looking members of the carp family swimming around.

Here's a prussian I caught:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/73436_845746594971_6103811_n.jpg

Cool looking fantail carp by buddy caught:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/562334_10151337951937131_690759408_n.jpg

Giant koi my buddy caught:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/577814_271642142970971_579037183_n.jpg

Butterfly koi:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/972007_299969496804902_1035023024_n.jpg

[zhitoman]

according to a couple articles linked from the wiki, it seems that the evidence points more towards the prussian carp these days?

they do look more like prussian carp than crucian carp
If I show you two fish, one gold crucian carp and another silver "prussian" carp, you would never tell the difference.))) They really look very similar. There is a difference in habitat, though. Native European gold crucian carp likes calm, weedy waters, just like catfish. Silver "prussian" carp on the other hand, likes strong currents, and often lives in big rivers forming huge schools. Most of the "prussian" carp in Eastern Europe was introduced in 20 century from Asia, and became numerous, reaching 4-5 lbs. In Eastern Europe they mistakenly call these huge fish "american buffalo fish" even though they are from Asia.

[zhitoman]

saxmatt, imagine catching that huge fish on light line? The state should put crucians in those weedy park ponds instead of trout.

[saxmatt]

They're already in a lot of the weedy park ponds. Right on about the Prussian habitat, caught that one in a big river with current. Crucians tend to be thicker and Prussians are shaped a little more like a piranha. Crucians tend to be a darker gold color too but can be different shades from light gold to a brownish color.

[zhitoman]

They're already in a lot of the weedy park ponds. Right on about the Prussian habitat, caught that one in a big river with current. Crucians tend to be thicker and Prussians are shaped a little more like a piranha. Crucians tend to be a darker gold color too but can be different shades from light gold to a brownish color.
You think you can share a spot?:)

[saxmatt]

Sent you a pm

[AndyS]

The state should put crucians in those weedy park ponds instead of trout. :)

[lunkertaker]

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Not my picture, but funny none the less:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qcO78VKIRX8/TJ6RTlv65_I/AAAAAAAAFBQ/ZvEMm3Ao2Aw/s1600/trout+fishing+031.JPG


These guys hit the aquarium big time

[steve392]

The lake in Little Ferry has those Orange Carp or Gold Fish in it. I watched a small school of them just hang out off the pier. Also saw those bubbly eyed gold fish swimming in the lake also.

[jmurr711]

Some Wild Dudes On Here!

[Ol Pedro]

Where does the Wile Sea Carp fit into this family ?

[Flukemeister1]

There used to be huge schools of very large goldfish in the Delaware. Then they introduced the Muski and also the water quality improved after 1973 and stripers started coming up this way. You don't see them very often now. If you want the chance at some true monster sized carp and also flathead catfish, try the sand bar just to the south of where the Muscenetcong dumps into the Delaware River in Riegelsville NJ. Guys use sunfish or beef liver for the flatheads and you can use whatever your favorite carp bait is for the carp. In Europe carp are considered tremendous gamefish due to their fighting ability and thier smarts. Once hooked they become exremely hook shy and are a true challenge to catch after that. Those giant koi are also very valuable to people with ponds because they keep them clean of weeds.