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Almaink
02-14-2013, 10:24 AM
F&G website about Pike fishing.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/artpassaicpike13.htm

acabtp
02-14-2013, 11:26 AM
good stuff

Skunk City
02-14-2013, 11:27 AM
Great article, very surprised by the total number of stocking locations, as well as where they are being stocked. There are literally Pike everywhere in this river :D .

PGAProfishional
02-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Nice Find! Thanks for posting.

UglyStick
02-14-2013, 12:13 PM
Awesome article and great info on access and stocking sites. Passaic pike is definitely one of the things on list of new places to try this year. I've only gone after pike at Budd before.

If I got the picture right, Skunk's now a F&G celebrity...

NorthJerzyG
02-14-2013, 12:19 PM
Well, I guess the cats outta the bag now, lol.

Seriously though, it can only help right. More stockings and more cleanup projects can only improve the fishery. Evident by the fact it seems the stocking numbers from the last two years were significantly higher than previous years. Plus it's not a "take home" fishery for most anglers so even higher pressure shouldn't hurt to much.

njfish4life
02-14-2013, 01:13 PM
I live right on the Chatham/Madison border and I have never really fished that stretch of the river- I always fish near South Mountain. I guess I should try closer to home.

Skunk City
02-14-2013, 01:45 PM
Awesome article and great info on access and stocking sites. Passaic pike is definitely one of the things on list of new places to try this year. I've only gone after pike at Budd before.

If I got the picture right, Skunk's now a F&G celebrity...

LOL not me. It's another forums member, I forget his member name.

FASTEDDIE29
02-14-2013, 02:35 PM
NJ's new state fish should be the Pike. They are a significant force in the Passaic River. The new most sought after fish in NJ. Posts about Pike on this site have blown up over the past couple years. Plenty of toothy critters out there for everyone to enjoy. Lets get em!!! :D

Jigman13
02-14-2013, 03:04 PM
I'm still searching in angst for my double digit fish--especially after losing one this summer that was easily over 36". It was my first trip on the Passaic targeting pike and I think I was a bit "under gunned" in the gear dept (lol). Needless to say, 10 lb mono is no longer in my pike vocabulary. Hopefully 2013 will be the year I cross "big Passaic pike" off my fishing bucket list!

Skunk City
02-14-2013, 03:39 PM
I'm still searching in angst for my double digit fish--especially after losing one this summer that was easily over 36". It was my first trip on the Passaic targeting pike and I think I was a bit "under gunned" in the gear dept (lol). Needless to say, 10 lb mono is no longer in my pike vocabulary. Hopefully 2013 will be the year I cross "big Passaic pike" off my fishing bucket list!


Persistance.....and 20lb+ Flouro leader and you'll be good :p .

shucker
02-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Plan on hittin this river hard in the spring,never caugt a pike but then again never fished for them.

NorthJerzyG
02-14-2013, 03:48 PM
When's the meet & greet, lol? I've been gettin geared up over the last month of painfully little fishing. Paint job on the boat, loaded up the tackle box, and the latest addition, 55lb thrust Minn Kota Endura Maxx. 5x longer run time than my 1987 motorguide lol. I'm covering some serious water this year.

Just remember, no littering, no disturbing the locals, and handle the fish with care. :)

Jigman13
02-14-2013, 04:04 PM
Persistance.....and 20lb+ Flouro leader and you'll be good :p .

Spooled up with Super Slick 8 PowerPro in the 15 lb test variety and use 20 lb fluoro leader. Did that immediately after my 1st trip and havent lost a lure or had a bite-off since! Just havent had anything to brag about...yet! lol

AndyS
02-14-2013, 04:12 PM
I got the Millstone right here by my house..... I gotta get out more often !!

saxmatt
02-14-2013, 05:40 PM
20lb floro will break pretty easily if a pike or pickerel has the leader in it's mouth and starts to head shake. I'd go with 60lb+ or steel.

NorthJerzyG
02-14-2013, 11:04 PM
I got the Millstone right here by my house..... I gotta get out more often !!

Great point actually! Any chance of getting a similar summary for the pompton and millstone??

AndrewT
02-15-2013, 02:07 AM
Do you guys notice a drastic difference in the number of hits when using a steel leader as opposed to a flouro?

FASTEDDIE29
02-15-2013, 05:46 AM
No steel leader for Pike in the Passaic. They just don't come for the bait. I don't think its neccessary and it definitely turns them off.

saxmatt
02-15-2013, 09:07 AM
Through the ice I've had better numbers and more big fish since I switched to floro. Bait, location and presentation matter more though. If the water is stained and the fish aren't educated it doesn't matter as much, but at heavily pressured paces especially with clear water I think floro is better than steel.

Jigman13
02-15-2013, 09:08 AM
Although I've never gone with steel, I've seen and talked to people on the Passaic who do use it. When asking them the "how you making out?" question, their responses were usually along the lines of "I got one" or "I had a few strikes". This was during outings where I had caught 13, 9, and 7 fish in three trips. Based off of these numbers and their responses, I'd say that the steel somewhat impacted their results for the worse. Now, this is a small test set but I found it to be convincing enough for me as a firsthand experience. Paired with the fact that I didn't have a single bite off with the #20 fluoro, it makes it hard for me to go in the direction of steel. Of course--to each their own. Using large lures and things like spinnerbaits or big buzzbaits tend to keep knots and line/leader out of harms way--unless they inhale the bait which happens often. With fluoro being as resilient (and hard) as it is, it can still hold up well in the business end of northerns.

Again... just my $0.02... now I wanna go pike fishing!!!

AndrewT
02-15-2013, 09:38 AM
Thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated!

Skunk City
02-15-2013, 11:57 AM
I've yet to get sawed off by a Pike using 20lb flouro. I actually had one a few weeks ago where while reeling it in, it somehow spit the lure but got my flouro leader tangled in his teeth. No idea how I managed to get him to shore like this, but the flouro held up with just a few rough spots to show for it. It wasn't a big Pike by any means (26"ish?), but I was happy with the flouro's performance.

flyboy1
02-16-2013, 04:05 AM
No steel leader for Pike in the Passaic. They just don't come for the bait. I don't think its neccessary and it definitely turns them off.

I completely and respectfully disagree.... I use 30lb power pro and 5" 20lb steel black leader and I have never had any problems catching Pike (and I catch a lot of nice size Pike)... matter of fact the Smallies still hit even with steel leader on....

You absolutely do not have to worry about line presentation when it comes to Pike or Musky... They will hit anything regardless of what the bait is attached to.... When it comes to fishing Pike I dont take any chances and I go with heavy braid and steel leader all the way...

Gatto1227
02-16-2013, 09:42 AM
Great point actually! Any chance of getting a similar summary for the pompton and millstone??
I pretty much live on the millstone and besides the way they look, they have nothing in common lol

AndrewT
02-16-2013, 10:27 AM
I would have thought that steel leaders for musky are a no no because they are much more finicky than pike. I'm a bass fisherman but I just bought some musky lures, jaw spreaders, and hook cutters (as recommended by catfish) because I'm dying to catch one of those beasts this year. I've only caught one in my life and have been so intrigued since.

buzzbaiter
02-16-2013, 04:29 PM
Once you catch your fair share, you'll come realize a few things:

1) that for their size they don't fight nearly as well as they should or could. I've caught smallies 1/3 their size that put up a better fight.

2) they are a pain to release (unharmed)once caught. you basically have to crush them to unhook them or use gloves or vice grips either of which hurts the fish.

3) those 25" fish you were once thrilled to catch start to annoy you since you know there are bigger.

4) You'll lose more lures on branches and snags than fish.

5) Fishing undisturbed water is nearly impossible especially on weekends.

I had the pike 'fever' for a few months but it went away once I realized it wasn't anything really special. Who knows though, I may catch it again in the spring:D

saxmatt
02-16-2013, 04:39 PM
Get a lip gripper and jaw spreader and they're easy to release unharmed. As far a leard presentation goes, it definitely makes a difference in some places. You can do well with steel if the bait and location is good but that doesn't make it the best option in every situation. If you do use steel make sure it doesn't have a snap swivel on it. I've seen snap swivels straighten out more times than I've seen 60lb+ test floro break.

flyboy1
02-16-2013, 08:11 PM
I should point out that I use Black steel leaders and I remove the ball bearing swivel and attach my braid directly to the leader loop... I also remove the lure swivel that comes attached with the leader and I add my own reputable brand after market swivel... The only thing that I really concerned with is the 5" bite/teeth span of the PIKE from where the lure attaches..... when removing the ball swivel and using just the steel leader itself it will not affect lure presentation and the line does not sink as fast when fishing top water plugs, poppers and walk the dog type lures....:rolleyes:

saxmatt
02-16-2013, 08:50 PM
Leader material does matter. If I was fishing topwater baits I wouldn't use floro either because it sinks. If I'm fishing bait lower in the water column with a slow presentation or dead bait through the ice the pike has as much time as it wants to inspect your bait and your rigs. Sometimes they'll look at it for 5 minutes, swim off, come back. In that situation I'd definitely use floro. I've caught 5 over 40" and dozens of 36-40" fish so I must be doing something right.