Baby Carp Or Goldfish?

[catfishonthelake]

Caught these in a small pond near Kenilworth today. The second one that Lindsay caught had a fancy tail. The are NOT wild shiners. I thought the first one was a tiny carp until Lindsay caught the second one. Any guesses?
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[FASTEDDIE29]

Look like baby carp to me. You should save em and liveline them in the passaic. The pike will jump all over them buddy!!! Right in the fish tank they go and then right in the pikes mouth.... YEA BUDDY!!!:D

[dboyd101]

If the pike haven't become saltwater pike by now...

(insert debbie downer horn here)

[JoeLongo]

Trap and skeet range?

[AJFISH13]

If the pike haven't become saltwater pike by now...

(insert debbie downer horn here)

Actually it's the other way around. Salt line goes down river after a lot of rain. During a drought, it goes up. Ive caught crabs WAY up the Maurice River when there was a summer drought.

[dboyd101]

I just meant that they were going to get washed out to the ocean ;)

[lunkertaker]

I have caught them as well here in NJ.

I dont think they are are Carp, but some sort of batifish. I have caught them fly fishing in lakes and on small lures in Assunpink. Have not identified them but they are interesting. Looked through McClane's trying to find what they are.

[dboyd101]

By the way, I think it's a common carp (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/crp/) (see link for reference)

[AndyS]

No barbel, def not a carp.

[catfishonthelake]

Eddie:D ....That's a fine idea. I'll tie me up some quick-strike rigs and float them fatties in the Passaic. Wouldn't mind saving a few for the ICE and drowning them in some musky haunts too.

Joe......dead on. I was tryng to find a carp spot someone told me about, but I think I should have been fishing the river over there instead of that puddle. It was loaded with sunfish and whatever these things are. Don't know if there's any big carp in that little puddle, but it was cool to pull something up that I couldn't figure out what it was. Any feedback on where the carp are over there would be greatly appreciated.

[ALK11]

99% sure, wild goldfish.

[vinntastic]

I Would Say A Carp,you Catch Passaic River Carp And They Look Diffrent From A Pond Carp,but Its Still A Carp. I Caught 2 Orange Carp In The Passaic Years Ago And They Werent Koi,an Oldtimer Told Me They Were Chinese Goldfish,they Were 8 To 10 Lbs...big Orange Carp To Me With Black In It,nice Lookin Fish..

[AJFISH13]

Might be a juvenile carp. The ones in Smithville had that color but a little bit different shape.

[Jigsmith]

Goldfish

[dboyd101]

I'd say the stripe (very faint horizontal) makes it the defining factor of it being a wild goldfish - thought it was a carp until later posts pointed out the wild goldfish -

now i'm convinced!!

ps - if you want to catch a goldfish, here's a link that may help: Petsmarts in NJ (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=petsmart+nj&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=60.158465,135.263672&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=9) ;) ;) ;)

[Fishy-Mark]

Looks like a tin foil barb, a fish bought for home aquariums...

[Billfish715]

Common carp are spread throughout the Union County area. I caught them as a kid in the Rahway River, Nomahegen Park, and that little pond you were fishing in as well as the one behind the shopping center on 22. There were some "not so native" goldfish in some of the ponds as well. I used to supply a friend of mine with 8-12 "comets" from a little pond in that area for his backyard pond. When we used to peddle our bikes to those exotic fishing places, catching shiners, small carp, chubs, sunnies, bluegills etc. was outstanding fun until we got older and more sophisticated and forgot what a thrill it was to just catch fish. Take a kid fishing and watch his or her smile. It will turn your idea of fishing back around and you'll remember what got you started fishing in the first place.