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AndyS
01-05-2019, 10:58 AM
Does anyone find in necessary to stock Channel Catfish ?
How much time and money is spent on catfish ? I picked up the 2019 NJ Freshwater Fishing Digest and I see the state stocks a boat load of Channel Catfish, why ? :confused:
Not only does the state stock a trillion Walleye in the Delaware river every year I see they also stock Largemouth Bass. I thought the bass were only stocked in lakes ?
I see also the continuation of Northern Pike stocking on the Millstone river on top of the struggling American Shad population in there, that makes a lot of sense !
Tiger Muskellunge in Lake Musconetcong also !
HerringKing
01-05-2019, 04:23 PM
Those channel cats and lower river lmb keep me fishing down here when nothing else is biting.
Drossi
01-05-2019, 04:45 PM
I don't see the issue stocking these fish. I don't think they are super expensive to raise and even though I don't fish much for those species myself, other people do. Would rather have our license money used on this than put into some general fund somewhere to be pillaged by politicians(gangster)
Lard Almighty
01-05-2019, 05:24 PM
Must you poo-pooh everything F&W does? Channel cats get big and can survive almost anywhere, unlike your precious stocked rainbows. It offers great potential for anglers to catch a big fish if they just want to toss out a nightcrawler and relax.
It's beginning to look like nothing F&W could do would ever make you happy. And if they know that, they'll stop trying.
Jedhead
01-05-2019, 05:25 PM
I believe the state stocks them in a lot of urban ponds where they are able to survive much better than a lot of other fish as well ponds that see a lot of kids fishing derbies ect. Only one way to get kids into fishing is to give them a fish that is easily caught. The boys in Hacketstown do a great job in the diversity of fish they raise, not all our favorites but have to cover all species.
AndyS
01-05-2019, 07:24 PM
Yes but they stock these same "urban" ponds with trout also, so what is the point ?
I don't poo-poo EVERYTHING F&G does, just only 75% worth :D
Jedhead
01-06-2019, 12:05 AM
I guess the point is the state has a lot of people to make happy. If they are sponsoring an event for young anglers at a pond in Woodbridge, Edison or Rahway and sending a stocking truck out , they better have something in it. Maybe a mix of fish, some trout, some bluegill and some catfish. Two out of three species will survive for awhile, giving returning fisherman and women a chance to continue to fish, thus potentially creating a new crop of fishing enthusiasts. We as hardcore fishing guys and gals would rather have the fish stocked in streams, ponds and lakes that we like to visit, but the state has a responsibility to spread the fish out. Sure a lot don't make it or are harvested, but same goes with historic trout streams and resiviors in the state. Remember we lived in NJ. Quite honestly , NJ fishing is pretty good for the state we live in.
thmyorke1
01-06-2019, 12:44 AM
I got no problem with it. Ive met many folk fishing for them specifically, with success, so no need to think they're stocked for no reason.
Not to mention that they're a nice fish to catch when fishing for bass in the Raritan.
Out of all the fish stocked they're probably the most underrated.
Also take a look at njBands' near state record channel cat. Great fish. Channel cats have their place.
Mark B.
01-06-2019, 08:12 AM
Yes but they stock these same "urban" ponds with trout also, so what is the point ?:D
Duh.
Perhaps, so urban anglers can catch trout in the spring & channel cats year round?
hammer4reel
01-06-2019, 09:58 AM
Rather they stock more fish that actually survive in those lakes and ponds than waste it on extra trout there .
Only thing your doing with large portion of trout stocking ponds is feeding egrets
AndyS
01-06-2019, 10:03 AM
Why toss Largemouth Bass into the Delaware river ???
AndyS
01-06-2019, 01:20 PM
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018, CPO Driscoll assisted the Central Region Officers by responding to an illegal fishing complaint along the Raritan River, in New Brunswick, Middlesex County. Upon arrival, CPO Driscoll surveilled two fishermen callously using cast nets and keeping every fish they caught. CPO Driscoll apprehended the two fishermen in possession of eleven black crappie over the daily limit, eighteen black crappie under legal minimum size, five largemouth bass under legal minimum size, and one chain pickerel under legal minimum size.
Who said the birds were eating all the fish ?
acabtp
01-06-2019, 02:01 PM
:rolleyes:
Mark B.
01-06-2019, 03:44 PM
Why toss Largemouth Bass into the Delaware river ???
I believe it is to supplement limited LMB reproduction in the lower tidal freshwater portion of the river.
Ask at the FW Forum.
thmyorke1
01-06-2019, 04:00 PM
also note for stocking lmb, bodies of water are different per year. Look at the yearly pdfs for the stocking summaries https://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/fish_lm_bass.htm
I dont see the delaware river listed recently, but according to the 2019 digest guess this year it will receive a stocking. (or it did in 2018 )
It's a good idea to stock lmb, and other warmwater fish like channel cats, all over the state. Better to stock as many small ponds as possible rather than keep stocking the same every year.
bulletbob
01-06-2019, 04:01 PM
I believe it is to supplement limited LMB reproduction in the lower tidal freshwater portion of the river.
Ask at the FW Forum.
Why not ?.. the river has plenty of forage, habitat is not ideal, better suited to SMB, but LMB do well in rocky streams too , I have seen some nice one's caught in SMB type water. However don't seem to reproduce as well as SMB do in rocky rivers, probably why they need to be stocked.. they won't push the SMB out, and they will simply be relegated to a secondary fishery, and wind up in slower moving more weedy areas, and as has been previously been stated, they will do well in the lower river in the tidal zone, right down into brackish water.. I could be wrong, because I do know that SMB can live in brackish water, but I do think LMB do better in brackish tidal areas than SMB.. In any case, any stocked LMB will simply find their zone and do fine... bob
FASTEDDIE29
01-06-2019, 08:57 PM
I’m sorry but I have to! Catfish are a Apex predator! They live reproduce and survive in almost every body of water. They eat everything! Smaller fish don’t stand a chance when a hungry Cat is present!!!! I’ve seen these catfish Devore all kinds of cut bait first hand. I have pics! Stock em’, catch em’ love em’!!! They rip drag and make rods bend! For real!!!
Jigman13
01-06-2019, 09:29 PM
Raritan river largemouth from May 2018 on back to back casts. Roughly 5 and 4+ lbs... they do fine in the raritan.
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